Re: W3C [PBG] Publishing Business Group Agenda December 2024

It is actually not clear, legally, who gets to choose the method(s) that are used – which is why we continue to meet (see you in BRU next week 😉 ).   The law simply states that there needs to be method(s) for allowing for the declaration of opt-out, but not that every training system has to respect every method of declaration.

I am hopeful that we can settle on a small enough subset of options – both location and unit based – that we will get to where all want to be.

Leonard

From: Laurent Le Meur <laurent@edrlab.org>
Date: Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 7:20 AM
To: McCloy-Kelley, Liisa (she/her) <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>
Cc: W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>, Daihei Shiohama <shiohama@mediado.jp>, Cristina Mussinelli - Fondazione LIA <cristina.mussinelli@fondazionelia.org>
Subject: Re: W3C [PBG] Publishing Business Group Agenda December 2024

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Hi,

I won't be able to participate in this call (I'll be in Bruxelles to discuss TDM opt-out with other copyright owners and AI actors).

You'll find an up-to-date list of known adopters of TDM Rep at https://w3c.github.io/tdm-reservation-protocol/docs/adopters.html .

So far, the prominent AI actors have yet to start obeying these rules. This puts them in an illegal position vs. Article 4 of the EU CDSM, but I didn't hear about legal actions from publishers on this ground. It may change after the start of the EU AI Directive. See https://w3c.github.io/tdm-reservation-protocol/docs/eu-act-extracts.html.


Re. DRM and Accessibility, as you know, is of great interest to EDRLab. Happy to have a separate discussion.

Best regards
Laurent





Le 19 nov. 2024 à 18:28, McCloy-Kelley, Liisa (she/her) <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com> a écrit :

Hello Publishing Business Group members,

Please find below the agenda for the next PBG calls for Americas/Europe on Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024,  to be held at [0] with joining instructions at [1] and for Americas/Asia on Tuesday, December 3rd, 2024/Wednesday, December 4th, 2024 to be held at [2] with joining instructions at [3], via the Zoom links in the PBG Calendar events linked above and the ics files attached.


W3C IRC: http://irc.w3.org/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http*3A*2F*2Firc.w3.org*2F&data=02*7C01*7CLAUDRAIN*40hachette-livre.fr*7Cf1f4b36643b342c072ff08d79c8273be*7Cf881a2c50a89483181b1c7846c49594d*7C0*7C0*7C637149956414432943&sdata=fRlwrrNqKLfWvIy6pt4d2F379ZmHqDYjXD4yiFM1dp0*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!PH0vZokp8wwQNw!25oU4tNXeepf6MLFJgmEgrCcS44aixe3HOVLuXI9tycKoDi7ROE_9FLthRwLKTxc53z3AI5uHfP5NaRlvOLMMK0KUUfJUByOcTr-2Wk2DA$>  (IRC channel #pbg).


Agenda:

  *   Adoption of TDM Protocol

     *   Who has adopted it?

     *   Are you using it in both epub and ONIX?
     *   Are you putting in a policy statement or just an opt-out?
     *   What do you expect recipients to do with this info?


  *   DRM and Accessibility

     *    Discuss how DRM and accessibility are not interdependent


  *   Update on EPUB Maintenance WG and New Charter

     *   Discuss what may be included in upcoming work
     *   https://w3c.github.io/publ-maintenance-wg-charter/



  *   Upcoming Meetings and discussions planned for 2025



Please send along any other topics you want to discuss.

We look forward to a great discussion!
On behalf of PBG co-chairs,
Liisa McCloy-Kelley, Daihei Shiohama and Cristina Mussinelli




[0] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+PBG+Meeting+-+Americas%2FEurope&iso=20241203T12&p1=179&ah=1



[1] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/2891b5a9-53dd-4def-ad51-f587e05e2cb9/


[2] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+PBG+Meeting+Americas%2FAsia&iso=20241203T19&p1=179&ah=1


[3] https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/50fbb58c-ac3a-441b-95ea-48b4f59915bd/







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