Re: W3C [PBG] Agenda for 20191015/16 call - US/Asian time

On 10/15/2019 3:06 PM, McCloy-Kelley, Liisa wrote:
>
> HI Dave-
>
> We were just trying to keep the agenda consistent from one meeting to 
> the next so that the US/Europe and the US/Asia meetings didn’t feel 
> out of sync. So you should expect a completely new agenda once each 
> month and then minimal changes 2 weeks later. Of course there will be 
> development on items between meetings which can be addressed during 
> the discussion.
>
Thanks Liisa for enforcing the consistency between the two meetings, but 
recognizing that there could be changes.

This time around, I think there is an important change.  I think it is 
more clear to us now that (a) to make a REC track recommendation we need 
to see the EPUB roadmap and (b) the roadmap work is taking place in the 
EPUB3 CG.

It is critical that Asian firms provide their input to the EPUB roadmap 
and I hope that is emphasized on tonight's call.  While Daihei joined 
and participated in the CG call last week, there were generally few 
Asian participants in the call.  Yet, if there are new requirements for 
EPUB from Manga, I would expect them to come largely from Japan.  We 
need to ensure that everyone participates in the roadmap efforts.

> I have not forgotten about the list of books that I can’t make ebooks 
> out of and the list I have of books that have less than optimal 
> experiences. I was going to start the conversation there tonight. I’m 
> sorry I haven’t had a chance to write that list up to get out to 
> everyone—flu season took out a bunch of my week.
>
> No one is suggesting jumping forward on REC track without letting the 
> CG finish their current roadmap work. If anything, we are only 
> confirming that we said we’d revisit this topic this fall and we are 
> still in a place where there seems to be little support for the work 
> REC track would entail.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Liisa
>
> *From: *Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 2:24 PM
> *To: *"McCloy-Kelley, Liisa" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>
> *Cc: *W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>, 
> Daihei Shiohama <shiohama@mediado.jp>, AUDRAIN LUC 
> <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
> *Subject: *Re: W3C [PBG] Agenda for 20191015/16 call - US/Asian time
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:27 AM McCloy-Kelley, Liisa 
> <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com 
> <mailto:lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>> wrote:
>
>     *Agenda*
>
>     ·
>
>     oEPUB 3 REC Track:
>
>     §Do you think it is necessary?
>
>     §Pros and cons document from discussion last
>     winter:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17CyIqihtjjzT7Abbcq9sSqLNqLGKs2cuXdg4DcFulGY/edit#gid=0
>
>     §Consider this for the call next month
>
> Is the plan to actually have the discussion on REC track, or to 
> discuss if we should have such a discussion next month?
>
> I think it would be useful to discuss what business needs are not 
> currently being met by EPUB 3.2. Liisa, a few weeks ago you mentioned 
> a list of books you couldn't publish as EPUB. I'd love to see that.
>
> We've already had lots of discussion of REC track without making a lot 
> of progress. Before continuing, I think we should let the EPUB 3 CG 
> finish work on their road map, with input from the PBG on unmet 
> business needs as I mentioned above. It's hard to talk about REC track 
> without knowing what exactly we might want to put on REC track.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>