Re: 72 hours call for consensus on Publishing Business Group charter revision from AUDRAIN LUC on 2018-02-16 (public-publishingbg@w3.org from February 2018)

From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:34:51 +0000
To: 鎌田純子 <kamata@voyager.co.jp>
CC: W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D6ACA9B5.D7492%laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>
Dear Junto,

No, the Advisory Committee and its board the Advisory Board do not vote on the BG charter.

Best,
Luc


De : 鎌田純子 <kamata@voyager.co.jp<mailto:kamata@voyager.co.jp>>
Date : vendredi 16 février 2018 à 09:22
À : AUDRAIN LUC AUDRAIN LUC <laudrain@hachette-livre.fr<mailto:laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>>
Cc : W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>>, Rick Johnson <rick.johnson@ingramcontent.com<mailto:rick.johnson@ingramcontent.com>>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>>, Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org<mailto:bmccoy@w3.org>>, "McCloy-Kelley, Liisa" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com<mailto:lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>>
Objet : Re: 72 hours call for consensus on Publishing Business Group charter revision

Dear Luc,

You helped very much my understanding. Thank you.
One more question, may I?

AB's authorization is required to replace the charter or not?

Best,
Junko Kamata


2018-02-15 18:29 GMT+09:00 AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr<mailto:LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>>:
Dear Kamata,

To bring your questions some information, please allow me to refer to previous communications from the Publishing Business Group.

(1) New Steering Committee

Previous mail attached about the proposed Steering Committee Slate (Jan 30th 21:04).
Excerpt: "This new Steering Committee will consist of the co-chairs of the Pub BG, Pub WG, and EPUB 3 CG plus leads of certain task forces of the PBG."

The principle of this "72h call for consensus election of new PBG Steering Committee slate" was discussed and decided in the Jan 30 call as noted in the minutes (https://www.w3.org/2018/01/30-pbg-minutes.html).
This list of candidates did receive only +1.

(2) Chairs of PBG

As noted in the Jan 16 PBG call minutes (https://www.w3.org/2018/01/16-pbg-minutes.html): « paul and christina are stepping back »
The Feb 13 PBG call, a slightly modified Steering Committee Slate has been approved (see 2. Revised slate in https://www.w3.org/2018/02/13-pbg-minutes.html).
I am expecting this decision to be soon followed by an update of the PBG participants Web page you are referring.


Hoping this to be helpful for you.

Kind regards,
Luc

De : 鎌田純子 <kamata@voyager.co.jp<mailto:kamata@voyager.co.jp>>
Date : jeudi 15 février 2018 à 08:46
À : Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com<mailto:daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>>
Cc : W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>>
Objet : Re: 72 hours call for consensus on Publishing Business Group charter revision
Renvoyer - De : <public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>>
Renvoyer - Date : jeudi 15 février 2018 à 08:50

Dear Audrain,

I have some questions. Your answer would be very helpful for me.

(1) The followinbg people are not listed on new SC. They are out from SC?

Paul Belfanti Jones & Bartlett Learning
Mike Baker Houghton Mifflin Harcourt
Graham Bell EDItEUR
Pierre Danet Hachette Livre
Leslie Hulse HarperCollins PublishersTreasurer
Cristina Mussinelli Associazione Italiana Editori
Eoin Noble Safari Books Online
Bill McCoy The Executive Director of the IDPF

My reference is:
http://idpf.org/news/idpf-members-approve-plan-to-combine-with-w3c


(2) Paul Belfanti and Cristina Mussinelli are not Chairs of PBG? Rick Johnson, Liisa McCloy-Kelley and Luc Audrain are co-chair. Co-chair means chair?

My reference is:
https://www.w3.org/community/publishingbg/participants


2018-02-15 14:43 GMT+09:00 Daniel Glazman <daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com<mailto:daniel.glazman@disruptive-innovations.com>>:
Le 14/02/2018 à 15:47, AUDRAIN LUC a écrit :

> Hi PBG,
>
> During the 13 Feb 2018 Publishing BG call, present members have
> discussed the collaborative revision of *PBG charter*[1].

+1 for the majority of the prose in the the proposed Charter, but...

-1 for the "The Publishing BG shall provide oversight and approval to
   publications of the EPUB 3 Community Group other than Editor's
   Drafts" sentence. I understand the W3C/IDPF Agreement is binding. I
   also understand people prefer sticking to the letter of the Agreement
   rather than pragmatism and a workable architecture.

0  for keeping the useless Steering Committee

All in all, a +1 because this Charter is at least more conformant to W3C
BG Process than the previous one. As I said earlier, I will leave the BG
if it still has a handhold on the publications in the CG.

I will also check if that weird CG/BG relationship is not violating W3C
CG/BG Process; so be ready for that because if it does, the W3C/IDPF
Agreement's provision about the BG ruling the CG is invalid...

</Daniel>




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From: AUDRAIN LUC <laudrain@hachette-livre.fr<mailto:laudrain@hachette-livre.fr>>
To: "public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>" <public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>>
Cc: "'W3C Team Digital Publishing'" <team-dig-publishing@w3.org<mailto:team-dig-publishing@w3.org>>, "'McCloy-Kelley, Liisa'" <lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com<mailto:lmccloy-kelley@penguinrandomhouse.com>>, "'Rick Johnson'" <rick.johnson@ingramcontent.com<mailto:rick.johnson@ingramcontent.com>>, "'Ivan Herman'" <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>>, Bill McCoy <bmccoy@w3.org<mailto:bmccoy@w3.org>>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:04:14 +0100
Subject: 72 hour call for consensus  election of new PBG Steering Committee slate
The Publishing BG has decided by consensus at our 30 Jan 2017 call to put forward a slate of candidates for the new Steering Committee, as recommended by the co-chairs to help reshape that group into a cross-group coordination body.
This new Steering Committee will consist of the co-chairs of the Pub BG, Pub WG, and EPUB 3 CG plus leads of certain task forces of the PBG.
Strategic decisions will be taken in the PBG as a whole, not by the SC.
This is somewhat of an experiment and so we are not proposing to amend the charter at this stage.



You are invited to provide email feedback on this call for consensus within the next 72 hours (by 3pm on Friday Feb 2 US ET time).


If you approve that the PBG be considered to have elected, by consensus, the proposed slate as the new Steering Committee, each to serve a one-year term (to be considered resigned if their chair/lead responsibilities change), please reply +1. If you disapprove, please -1, neutral 0.



            Ric Johnson (Ingram / VitalSource) - co-chair Publishing BG

            Liisa McCloy-Kelley (Penguin Random House) - co-chair Publishing BG
            Luc Audrain (Hachette Livre) - co-chair Publishing BG

            Dave Cramer (Hachette Book Group) - co-chair EPUB 3 CG

            Rachel Comerford (Macmillan Learning) - co-chair EPUB 3 CG

            Tzivya Siegman (Wiley) - co-chair Publishing WG

            Garth Conboy (Google)  - co-chair Publishing WG

            George Kerscher (DAISY) - co-lead, PBG a11y task force

            Bill Kasdorf (Apex) - co-lead, PBG external coordination task force

            Daihei Shiohama (Media Do) - co-lead, PBG external coordination task force

If the chairs do not see consensus we will conduct a different election process.

The co-chairs,
Kind regards,
Luc




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