Re: George's thoughts: RE: IMPORTANT: Meeting announcement and draft agenda for JWG7 of JTC1/SC34, TC46/SC4 and IEC/TC100 TA10, 2018-05, Lisbon, Portugal

Dear All,



As agreed we have investigate the process of EU standardization with our Italian standard body contact person.



AIE already participates to the activities of the ISO/TC 46/SC 9 commission through the Italian national ISO body, UNI.



We had a phone call with our contact at UNI to introduce the work done by the W3C publishing business group for the EPUB and the Accessibility Tecniques, the possible paths for a standardization that we are now considering in the W3C and to explain the possible issues we may face in case a EU standardization process will start due the EU Accessibility Act.



As for the ISO standardization process, we learned that Italy participated to the ISO WG for the standardization of EPUB 3 (joint JTC 1/SC 34-TC 46/SC 4-IEC/TC 100/TA 10) so UNI has expertise in it and we will be in contact with the person involved at that time, after the national vacation period at the beginning of May.



We stressed the relevance that, in case the CEN initiated the process for an European harmonized standard for accessibility, the work already done by W3C in the field of digital publications would be taken into account by CEN and ask for advice on how we could contribute to the process.  In particular we asked to have more details on how the W3C recommendation or the W3C Community group Charter can be considered during the CEN process.



According to our contact in UNI,  there could be different ways to make the CEN aware about the W3C work in the accessibility field: it could happen either through direct contacts between W3C and CEN, either through ISO national bodies, that will be quite sure contacted to be part of the working group that will be setup by CEN if the EU Commission ask them for a specific mandate to create an EU Harmonized Standard.



During the call we also explained that the WCAG 2.0 have been approved as an ISO standard but it may be useful to  have more details on how this happened and if ISO and the W3C already have direct contacts (as it could facilitate the exchanges among the two organizations).



Our contact person at UNI will check with the colleague, who was already involved in the past work done for the standardization of EPUB ad ISO technical specification and that is more familiar with the CEN procedures and will be able to give us more details.



More info will come in May, as soon as we have this call.



Best

Cristina




Da: Juli Calderazi <jcalderazi@gmail.com>
Data: giovedì 12 aprile 2018 02:22
A: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
Cc: MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>, W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
Oggetto: Re: George's thoughts: RE: IMPORTANT: Meeting announcement and draft agenda for JWG7 of JTC1/SC34, TC46/SC4 and IEC/TC100 TA10, 2018-05, Lisbon, Portugal
Rinviato da: <public-publishingbg@w3.org>
Data rinvio: giovedì 12 aprile 2018 02:21

+1 to George's List.
+1 to Option 4 description.

Just came back from vacations.

Trying to catch up in the next days but this list looks OK.

Julian


On 10 Apr 2018, at 14:30, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com<mailto:kerscher@montana.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

Based onMakoto’s email below and our lengthy discussion on the call today, I thought I would put down my thoughts:

Approach


  1.  Move briskly forward to develop EPUB 3.2 as a W3C CG Report, i.e. the Standard we recommend.
  2.  Also update the Accessibility Spec to version 1.1  and submit as a CG report
  3.  Develop a robust test suite for EPUB 3.2 that will also help our rec track PWG
  4.  Develop Rachel’s Best practices (oops probably not called Rachael’s)
  5.  Marcket  the heck out of3.2 as being backward compatible as the current Standard.
  6.  In ISO get assurances that the standards will be freely available and may also be available from W3C
  7.  Ask Makoto to move forward with option 4, see below


Option 4: International Standards for EPUB 3.0.1 (fast-track) and EPUB A11Y 1.0 (normal process)
list of 4 items
• Estimated timeline: The target date is middle 2020. (The fast-track DIS ballot for EPUB 3.0.1 requires 6 months and the comment disposition requires
a few months. EPUB A11Y requires a CD ballot and a DIS ballot, at least.)
• Pros: Not-so-late publication

  *   No language in the EPUB 3.0.1 spec needs to be rewritten (Makoto please confirm)
• Cons: EPUB A11Y is required to be rewritten in the ISO/IEC style, although it is short.
• Cons: Might hamper the adoption of 3.2.

While EPUB 3.0.1 being an ISO standard could in theory hamper 3.2 adoption, because of the backward compatability of 3.2 with 3.01, plus the marketing in support of 3.2, plus the best practices in 3.2, plus the Ace supporting 3.2, , plus the new epubcheck supporting 3.2, I think we are in good shape.

That’s my thoughts and I am sure there are things missing.

Best
George

From: eb2mmrt@gmail.com<mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com> <eb2mmrt@gmail.com<mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com>> On Behalf Of MURATA Makoto
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:09 AM
To: W3C Publishing Business Group <public-publishingbg@w3.org<mailto:public-publishingbg@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Meeting announcement and draft agenda for JWG7 of JTC1/SC34, TC46/SC4 and IEC/TC100 TA10, 2018-05, Lisbon, Portugal

Dear colleagues,

On May 16, SC34/JWG7 will have a comment
resolution meting for the Proposed Draft Techical
Specifications Ballot of EPUB 3.0.1 (PDTS 30135 -1
to 6).  We have to choose either Option 4 or 5 before
this meeting.  We can take more time for Options 1, 2,
and 3.

Regards,
Makoto

2018-03-27 18:58 GMT+09:00 MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp<mailto:eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>>:
Dear colleagues,

This meeting is mainly for the comment disposition of ISO/IEC PDTS
30135-1/66 (EPUB 3.0.1) and that of ISO/IEC PDTS 22424-1/2 (EPUB3
preservation).

The meeting announcement and draft agenda are available at:

  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2018Mar/0384.html


Referenced documents are also available at:

  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2018Mar/


These documents are not available to the public.  I believe
that TPI members have access to these documents.

I am sure that this meeting will care the input from W3C
very seriously.  After the last meeting, I created a list
of possible options for the standardization of EPUB
3.0.1/3.2.  Is it possible to reach consensus on the
choice of several options, available at:

https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/wiki/Five-options-for-creating-ISO-IEC-specifications


?


Regards,
MURATA Makoto (liaison from ISO/IEC JTC1/SC34 to W3C)




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