Re: Running headers/footers / new version of DPUB-ARIA?

FWIW: Headers & Footers can be properly identified in PDFs and exposed accordingly to AT (so that they aren’t read multiple times).  In fact, PDF/UA (the PDF standard for Universal Accessibility) calls out their usage.

Leonard

From: "kerscher@montana.com" <kerscher@montana.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:35 PM
To: 'Aaron Leventhal' <aleventhal@google.com>, "public-publ-wg@w3.org" <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Cc: 'Joanmarie Diggs' <jdiggs@igalia.com>
Subject: RE: Running headers/footers / new version of DPUB-ARIA?
Resent-From: <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 4:35 PM

Hello,

This is just my opinion. Running headers and footers are very intrusive while reading. I encounter these many times in PDF documents. The same information is constantly repeated. Fortunately, I do not encounter this while reading EPUB. I can understand that it might be useful for the Reading System to provide “where am I?” information as one is reading, but including this over-and-over again in the content would be horrible.
I am reading using Assistive Technology (AT) and the TTS reads to me. I imagine this would also be painful if a person was using the read aloud function in Reading Systems.

I could see the same problem in an audio book. Nobody would want to hear those running heads and footers in the audio book.

My $.02

Best
George

Best
George


From: Aaron Leventhal <aleventhal@google.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:37 AM
To: public-publ-wg@w3.org
Cc: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs@igalia.com>
Subject: Running headers/footers / new version of DPUB-ARIA?

Hi all,

I'm wondering about the plans for doing DPUB-ARIA 2.0 as described under the deliverables:
https://www.w3.org/2017/04/publ-wg-charter/#deliverables<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F04%2Fpubl-wg-charter%2F%23deliverables&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7Ca900de3228ed4b79ca3408d725adf1a0%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637019301336464115&sdata=lq%2B8xXOLV5kb51FHcRiDMtreDKpVcnbZ1hiccTMcwPQ%3D&reserved=0>

Thanks for what DPUB-ARIA provides so far. Google Docs is going to be using it  to expose semantics for online word processing. We're collaborating with AT vendors and other developers of online word processors as well.

One gap is running headers and footers: https://github.com/w3c/dpub-aria/issues/10<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fdpub-aria%2Fissues%2F10&data=02%7C01%7Clrosenth%40adobe.com%7Ca900de3228ed4b79ca3408d725adf1a0%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637019301336474111&sdata=qCHKOYT86omUPve8wbrx%2BHZEt%2Fv0sH0%2BPTAdjwAzXAo%3D&reserved=0> -- hence the reason for my email and status check :)

Thanks for any info,
Aaron