Re: Web Publications via HTML Imports

Great idea on the Wiki page, Ivan:

https://github.com/w3c/publ-wg/wiki/Hackable-Publications


Added some of the books mentioned here.


Hugh, I'd be curious to know what a Pressbook would look like "on disk" (outside of the WordPress MySQL storage).


Constructing publications via a CMS will certainly be common (I'd reckon), but I'm currently trying to see the trees for the forests. ;)


Feel free to add any books I've missed!

Benjamin


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From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:20:54 AM
To: Romain
Cc: W3C Publishing Working Group; Benjamin Young; Hugh McGuire; Daniel Weck
Subject: Re: Web Publications via HTML Imports


On 30 Jul 2017, at 14:00, Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com<mailto:rdeltour@gmail.com>> wrote:

And Resilient Web Design (implemented as a PWA, offlinable, with an app manifest):

  https://resilientwebdesign.com/

It could be worth gathering all these links on a wiki page somewhere?

+1. The WG Wiki is at our disposal:

https://github.com/w3c/publ-wg/wiki

Ivan


Romain.


On 29 Jul 2017, at 08:21, Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com<mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com>> wrote:

Lest not forget
https://serviceworke.rs<https://serviceworke.rs/>
:)

(also open-source @ Github)

/Daniel

On 28 Jul 2017 8:58 pm, "Benjamin Young" <byoung@bigbluehat.com<mailto:byoung@bigbluehat.com>> wrote:
Hey Hugh,

I like the approach of using actual books already published on the Web as potential “proof case” examples for various implementations options—especially when measured from their current instantiations to whatever-it-is-we’re-trying-to-experiment-on. :)

I’m guessing that you have access to the source content for that book, so you’d be the point person on knowing the distance between it and any proposed solution.

I’ve been occasionally referencing (in my own off-list…so far…exploration) the following openly licensed texts:
http://guide.couchdb.org/ (CC BY 3.0)
http://eloquentjavascript.net/ (CC BY-NC 3.0)

It would be great to have many more such examples—especially of less linear, more internally (and externally!) referential texts.

Forking some of these existing books and iterating toward what we want, might be a helpful path forward and minimize the “meta” weeds we keep wandering into. :)

Cheers!
Benjamin

From: Hugh McGuire [mailto:hugh@rebus.foundation<mailto:hugh@rebus.foundation>]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 3:19 PM
To: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>>
Cc: Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>>; Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>>; W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Web Publications via HTML Imports

Dave,

Here is a live “Web Publication” awaiting direction from this group on how to implement itself correctly to meet a WP specification:
https://book.pressbooks.com<https://book.pressbooks.com/>

Would getting the above to do what you have suggested be easy or hard? (That is a real question …)

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>> wrote:
Very interesting Dave!

Doesn't obviate a manifest; maybe points in the "in HTML" direction for the rest of the manifest stuff (e.g., list of other resources) [but certainly could be linked too], and is a quite possible approach to the spine.

Best,
    Garth

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>> wrote:

- this import mechanism, when supported by a browser, fetches the complete set of imported resources. This is not really the need expressed (-> to list the resources and enable selective fetch).


My little example happened to show fetching all the imports, but it would be very easy to fetch a subset, one at a time, etc. It's completely controlled by script.

Best regards,

Dave






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