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RE: Can a publication change over time?

From: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 22:45:43 -0400
To: "'Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken'" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, "'Hadrien Gardeur'" <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com>
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I can always make myself available if we want to spend a few hours one day getting oriented. Even if we know we're going to get blocked on some items, getting down what we can and laying out the issues will help determining priorities. Spec issues and github pointers aren't a bad thing in a FPWD.




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Subject: RE: Can a publication change over time?


Great idea, Matt


I would be more than happy to facilitate that. We are all about specjam.


Tzviya Siegman

Information Standards Lead



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From: Matt Garrish [mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com] 
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Subject: RE: Can a publication change over time?


And let me add that our goal wasn't to get hung up on perfect definitions, or define everything. We have, I believe, a good enough starting point, which was all that we wanted to ensure coming out of the last call. The WP definition is more formal than Bill's definition of web content organized from start to finish, but that's where we're all at, and that's a good thing.


My other definition-type questions are just because I have that as a responsibility, but please move on to the other issues we need to solve. It might even be good to get everyone with an assigned section together on a call for a writing party to figure out what can be written now and how to focus the discussions.




From: Hadrien Gardeur [mailto:hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com] 
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Subject: Re: Can a publication change over time?


That's the core of our disagreement Tzviya.


Several people have expressed similar opinions (including Romain, Baldur, Hugh and Laurent at least) that trying to find an "ideal" definition is not the way forward, and that working with bullet point lists and open questions is fine for now. Matt has also raised several questions along those lines on this mailing list.


I've provided such bullet point lists multiple times now on different subjects, on this mailing list and on Github, and have made an attempt at trying to assess what's the current consensus for some of them.
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