Re: definition of Web Publication

A website can be taken offline today – either via “open” solutions like ServiceWorkers or UA-specific solutions (eg. MHTML).  So I would say that we don’t need to say anything special about it.

Leonard

From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
Date: Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:09 AM
To: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>, 'Dave Cramer' <dauwhe@gmail.com>
Cc: 'W3C Publishing Working Group' <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication

Ok, this is much more simple.

Notion of creator/author could be found in the « logical work » and the idea of « boundaries »  in « primary/secondary » resources.

But, the loss of « offline » in that tiny definition is a question for me.
It may be optional for WP but IMO, the possibility to make it available offline is a must and that's a difference from a website.

Could we add something like:
The Web Publication is uniquely identifiable and presentable using Open Web Platform technologies and can be made available for offline reading.

Luc


De : Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com<mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com>>
Date : jeudi 27 juillet 2017 à 23:44
À : 'Leonard Rosenthol' <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>, 'Garth Conboy' <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>>, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>>
Cc : 'W3C Publishing Working Group' <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Objet : RE: definition of Web Publication
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Renvoyer - Date : jeudi 27 juillet 2017 à 23:45

> we shouldn’t need ot define UA, as that is already defined in HTML

Yes, I wasn't sure about that. I brought it over from the DPIG note and adapted the referenced WAI entry as it seemed important in that document, but I think we can take for granted that the thing processing a WP is its user agent.

I'll take it out and we can always revisit later if there's a pressing need.

Matt

From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com]
Sent: July 27, 2017 5:02 PM
To: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>>; Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication

Thanks Matt – much better.  +1 from me on the new definition.

One minor note – we shouldn’t need ot define UA, as that is already defined in HTML (etc.).  Maybe just reference that one…

From: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>>
Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:21 PM
To: Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>>
Cc: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com<mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com>>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: definition of Web Publication
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Resent-Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 4:21 PM

Yep, SGTM too.

Best,
   Garth

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Dave Cramer <dauwhe@gmail.com<mailto:dauwhe@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com<mailto:matt.garrish@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry, link is: https://w3c.github.io/wpub/#terminology<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fw3c.github.io%2Fwpub%2F%23terminology&data=02%7C01%7C%7C20be4d05253341e5f36108d4d52d06fc%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636367836747664301&sdata=Z0duCR995ZNUJB6kEc3c72YjXFhL65LXr6x9CqgdL7c%3D&reserved=0>


I'm OK with that definition.

Dave