- From: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 11:16:34 -0700
- To: Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com>
- Cc: Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>, Hadrien Gardeur <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CADExNBM1_bQdYrU=8STRK6W5ARWfeQhZX9TbOcafQTGTo7Jrmg@mail.gmail.com>
Just chiming in to let you know I'm still reading. Don't disagree enough with much of the proceeding to proffer a substantive reply. :-) Best, Garth On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 27 Jul 2017, at 19:44, laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org wrote: > > Imho the identifier of a WP is not required to be addressable. Any global > identification scheme could be use in fact (e.g doi). But Urls are easy to > mint and avoid centralization issues; they are the de facto identification > scheme on the web. As the manifest is the only resource specific to a WP, > its address is a logical choice. > > > OK, makes sense. > But then, the URL to a manifest may change, or two different URLs can > point to the same manifest: > > https://resilientwebdesign.com/manifest.json > https://resilientwebdesign.com/books/../manifest.json > > (dumb case, but you see the point). > > All I'm saying is I understand the manifest _can_ be used as an identifier > in a given context (e.g. a UA), but there's nothing to say about that in > the spec, right? There's a URL, people can use that as an identifier or not. > > As far as I can tell, there's no such concept in web sites and apps, and I > don't see that publications need anything other than a loosely specified > "dc:identifier" property in metadata. (Maybe I'm wrong, I'm just not > convinced yet :-) > > Pls refrain using other arguments like "it's not what users want to share" > : users will share the "start" URL which will be different. > > > +1. > > > Cordialement, Laurent > > Le 27 juil. 2017 à 18:36, Hadrien Gardeur <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com> > a écrit : > > I think you were initially in the "others" Romain, but not by the end of > the conversation where you clearly understood the difference that I made > between "start" and "self" links. > > IMO the use case for an identifier is simple: we want to uniquely identify > a WP. For instance if I add multiple WP in a UA, this is the identifier > that the UA will rely on internally to associate various attributes and > settings to a WP. > > The URI of a primary resource can't uniquely identify a WP, since it can > be present in multiple WP. That's not the case of a manifest, which is > unique to a WP. > > >
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