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Re: definition of Web Publication

From: Brady Duga <duga@google.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:51:21 -0400
Message-ID: <CAH_p_eUNZJt=A9mHW-fWOi8Z68=1XFuHysthjJJDGkErZ2DHMQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>
Cc: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
I think a web page meets the given definition of a WP. It is a collection
of 1 or more resources (html, plus optional images, css, fonts, etc),
organized in a uniquely identifiable grouping (a URL to a web page). Also,
I think OWP technologies can show web pages. I think this vague definition
was reached as a compromise among people who couldn't agree to please a
wide group, which means we have a definition that can mean anything to
anyone, based on existing bias. I am neutral on the existing definition,
but I think if it remains then the WP work of this group will be difficult
to achieve. We would still have the PWP work, though.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com> wrote:

> I'm gonna go with "+1".   I tend to think "uniquely identifiable grouping"
> is key.  Matt, did you omit that on purpose?
>
> Best,
>    Garth
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's a somewhat vague definition, I find. What really sets it apart from
>> a web page or web site, for example? Those have constituent resources, are
>> uniquely identifiable and viewable using OWP technologies. It also leaves
>> open the question of what "organized together" means.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hate writing quick responses to terminology, but something like the
>> following would be more where my thinking is:
>>
>>
>>
>> A Web Publication (WP) is a representation of an artistic or
>> intellectual work using Open Web Platform technologies. It is defined by a
>> collection of constituent resources linked together through a manifest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken [mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com]
>> *Sent:* July 24, 2017 1:04 PM
>> *To:* W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
>> *Subject:* definition of Web Publication
>>
>>
>>
>> The DPUB IG proposed a definition of Web Publications [1, 2]
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the short definitions. Please see [1] for the longer definition.
>>
>>
>>
>> ·  A Web Publication (WP) is a collection of one or more constituent
>> resources, organized together in a uniquely identifiable grouping that may
>> be presented using standard Open Web Platform technologies.
>>
>> ·  A Packaged Web Publication (PWP) is a Web Publication
>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp/#dfn-web-publication> whose constituent
>> resources are combined into a single distributable file, using some
>> standard packaging format.
>>
>> ·  In this document, manifest refers to an abstract means to contain
>> information necessary to the proper management, rendering, and so on, of a
>> publication. This is opposed to metadata that contains information on the
>> content of the publication like author, publication date, and so on. The
>> precise format of how such a manifest is stored is not considered in this
>> document.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are happy with these definitions, a simple +1 vote is sufficient.
>> If you are not, please vote -1 and propose revisions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp/#whatisawebpublication
>>
>> [2] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp/#terminology
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tzviya Siegman*
>>
>> Information Standards Lead
>>
>> Wiley
>>
>> 201-748-6884 <(201)%20748-6884>
>>
>> tsiegman@wiley.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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