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Re: [PWG] 20170724 Agenda

From: Ruffilo, Nick <Nick.Ruffilo@ingramcontent.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:50:26 +0000
To: "Levantovsky, Vladimir" <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>, "Leonard Rosenthol" <lrosenth@adobe.com>, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>, "public-publ-wg@w3.org" <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Message-ID: <216C5AA1-843F-4412-9B28-3507CD10D5F0@ingramcontent.com>
Regrets as well – summer is near impossible for me at this time, but I’ll be scribing as usual and more active once school starts up again (and I’m on a more normal home schedule)

From: "Levantovsky, Vladimir" <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>
Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 11:46 AM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>, "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com>, Garth Conboy <garth@google.com>, "public-publ-wg@w3.org" <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: RE: [PWG] 20170724 Agenda
Resent-From: <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Monday, July 24, 2017 at 11:46 AM

Sorry, last minute regrets from me too, scheduling conflict.
Vlad


From: Leonard Rosenthol [mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:14 AM
To: Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken; Garth Conboy; public-publ-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: [PWG] 20170724 Agenda

Last minute regrets due to conflicting meeting ☹.    I look forward to the minutes…

From: "Siegman, Tzviya - Hoboken" <tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>>
Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 3:24 PM
To: Garth Conboy <garth@google.com<mailto:garth@google.com>>, "public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>" <public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: [PWG] 20170724 Agenda
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Resent-Date: Thursday, July 20, 2017 at 3:24 PM

Hi all,

I hope we can have some good discussion on Monday. A lot of work was done in the DPUB IG to answer many of the questions that we are getting hung up on now. The work that DPUB published is considered input into PWG, and we can and should discuss whether we have consensus around the decisions made in that group. I have collected some of the links relevant to the items Garth listed in a Google Doc [1].

If you are not familiar with the Web Publications Use Cases and Requirements [2] and Web Publications for the Open Web Platform [3], I encourage you to take a look.

[1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NzYLURq4zqkeGoCJbY-5rlIUsfPt9Dy5S10BLOA-tGg/edit?usp=sharing<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1NzYLURq4zqkeGoCJbY-5rlIUsfPt9Dy5S10BLOA-tGg%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=WP4aThcdv4dNOS%2FTOprJnt49YEJdbjQ9h3iLymgKVCw%3D&reserved=0>
[2] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp-ucr<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2Fpwp-ucr&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=Ca4dyVaT6cV2WvTnxLMItBqR%2FDfzYnISrVEvdg%2BWyYg%3D&reserved=0>
[3] https://www.w3.org/TR/pwp/



Tzviya Siegman
Information Standards Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884
tsiegman@wiley.com<mailto:tsiegman@wiley.com>

From: Garth Conboy [mailto:garth@google.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 1:22 PM
To: public-publ-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-publ-wg@w3.org>
Subject: [PWG] 20170724 Agenda

Hello Publishing WG Folks,

Below is the draft agenda for next week's WG conference call, to be held at the usual day and time [0].

We have switched from WebEx to GoToMeeting!  Please see this page<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2FMeetings%2Fgotomeetings&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=NKMbtuBCAwROJkn25%2BwpQko1GoNAyDxTBjOPf%2BfXXqM%3D&reserved=0> for new dial-in information [1].

If you are new to this group, learn the tricks here<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2FWorkMode%2Fnewbie&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=FTjQzv28y4S138CzMJuELQCeUKaNTabwdVCXolsw3fo%3D&reserved=0> [2].  Publishing WG home page is here<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=kRjBoOJXFOY5x9NNJh%2BZyAB0XOKcmqmPS9m8zLFxC0Q%3D&reserved=0> [5].

Please let us know if you are able to scribe. Please join the call via GoToMeeting [1] and join IRC [13] for live chat & minutes (IRC channel #pwg).

Agenda:
•  Approve previous WG minutes [3]
•  Welcome new members & brief introductions
•  Civility, quantity, and participation on issues [4]
•  Technical work; largely manifest related; largely led by Dave C
o Active issues here<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=o28wV2yk06H0ohQ3sMNqzTeyobNEicMHqtyFqPIl6TQ%3D&reserved=0> [6]
o Scope of WP?  Will WP include a collection of existing URLs that are constantly being updated and changed, not controlled by the author/publisher, like a syndication or feed service?  Or, is WP a publication or new material prepared by the author/publisher, with easier updating because it’s on the Web?  How static is the content of a WP?  How related to a published document is it?   Is the “publisher” is able to make any changes to the web resources being published?
o Can a UA with the first resource of a WP figure out that it's a WP? [7] and [8]
o Can a UA with any resource of a WP figure out that it's a WP? [7] and [8]
o What's in a manifest (regardless of where it lives)?  What's optional, what's required? [9] and [9.5]
o Won't make this week:
• What's a WP's "identifier" and/or "locator?" [9.75]
• Can a clueless UA do anything with only the above?
•  Any other business
[0] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DPUB+IG+Meeting&iso=20170724T12&p1=43<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timeanddate.com%2Fworldclock%2Ffixedtime.html%3Fmsg%3DDPUB%2BIG%2BMeeting%26iso%3D20170724T12%26p1%3D43&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=x6xjhp5umikyWmxvbZMmFcOy8uFf2A0lacG1muh%2B5tg%3D&reserved=0>

[1] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/Meetings/gotomeetings<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2FMeetings%2Fgotomeetings&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=NKMbtuBCAwROJkn25%2BwpQko1GoNAyDxTBjOPf%2BfXXqM%3D&reserved=0>

[2] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/WorkMode/newbie<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2FWorkMode%2Fnewbie&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=FTjQzv28y4S138CzMJuELQCeUKaNTabwdVCXolsw3fo%3D&reserved=0>

[3] https://www.w3.org/2017/07/17-pwg-minutes.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2017%2F07%2F17-pwg-minutes.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=Bv%2FFiczAo0SWQmxyxza1qvo%2BCYqg04oCxwGw9WFHawo%3D&reserved=0>

[4] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FConsortium%2Fcepc%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=IUudK7V56hXU18LFUxK%2BN4YwAXoEzAlCBYd77JukKpA%3D&reserved=0>

[5] https://www.w3.org/publishing/groups/publ-wg/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2Fpublishing%2Fgroups%2Fpubl-wg%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=kRjBoOJXFOY5x9NNJh%2BZyAB0XOKcmqmPS9m8zLFxC0Q%3D&reserved=0>

[6] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=o28wV2yk06H0ohQ3sMNqzTeyobNEicMHqtyFqPIl6TQ%3D&reserved=0>

[7] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues/13<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues%2F13&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=vwOKoVLPq5VIo%2F2whkTqiYhenkg5c5VjwqSE2FCGWyo%3D&reserved=0>

[8] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues/11#issuecomment-316179015<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues%2F11%23issuecomment-316179015&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=9ZYjDkY8i3jZ3JNRh8kJNeCT69sGS6H6pmKkMYSHecQ%3D&reserved=0>

[9] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues/6<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues%2F6&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=W0%2FPRTsNh1%2B116YvewSuuO6SXra5ampwuXosI6VubcY%3D&reserved=0>

[9.5] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues/6#issuecomment-314486416<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues%2F6%23issuecomment-314486416&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=5G3kJBp15oCrTAJqyXuhbVSl2P0teBPnlsmGPhtWL%2FU%3D&reserved=0>

[9.75] https://github.com/w3c/wpub/issues/11<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fwpub%2Fissues%2F11&data=02%7C01%7C%7C4a52339a2ad34a3e8a0608d4cfa4efa7%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636361754697005645&sdata=ASgBSAAn5P4kQ01TYFTVwEJqzDBk59wPPckFz%2FvWOno%3D&reserved=0>

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