- From: MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp>
- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 06:44:36 +0900
- To: W3C Publishing Working Group <public-publ-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CALvn5EC3_6rxtfurywkdTVU148zmProCWb+w=U7BiL70U-gt6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Ivan and Laurent, I raised some github issues. Ivan, thank you for your clarification. Indeed, there will be a lot of open issues in the First Public Working Drafts. I have been concerned that the manifest format (and the predecessor, BFF) would be finished without having a big picture for the unification of the Web world and the EPUB world. If the WP and PWP FPWDs do not provide details of the manifest format, I am happy with your scenario. Regards, Makoto 2017-08-04 22:08 GMT+09:00 Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>: > (Changed the subject line a bit) > > Makoto, > > > On 4 Aug 2017, at 15:00, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> wrote: > > Laurent, > > I am responding one of your comments. > > I thought that we agreed to tackle the WP spec and then the PWP spec, but > I did not think that we are going to ignore PWP during the design of WP. > > > at the moment, the goal is to produce First Public Working Drafts. These > are _not_ final specifications, very far from it; these are mostly outlines > for the main areas, stakes in the ground, so to say, with possibly > (probably) lots of open issues. Some of those sections may have more > technical content, some of them may not. We also agreed that we would > consider the main outlines of WP first and then PWP. This does not mean > _finalizing_ anything before the other. > > To touch upon Laurent's other comment: I believe it is way better to > record open specific issues in github, rather than having disparate email > discussions. We may or may not discuss the issues right now, but by virtue > of being explicitly raised we can be sure that, eventually, those question > will be dealt with. Your latest question about multiple URL-s on the same > resource is a typical example for this. > > I hope this helps > > Cheers > > Ivan > > > > > My > interpretation may well be incorrect. But I think that finishing WP > without > considering PWP will lead to the separation of the Web world and the EPUB > world. > > Regards, > Makoto > > 2017-08-04 19:42 GMT+09:00 Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>: > >> Dear Makoto, >> >> From my remote island, I will have three comments: >> - The title of this thread (Identifying a book on the Web today) and the >> issue of URLs for resources embedded in a PWP are not related, which makes >> following threads (and searching in threads in the future) rather hard. >> - we agreed to tackle issues with PWPs after WPs are clear. Your issue >> definitely seems to be related with PWPs. >> - I still don't see why *all* discussions have moved from github to >> emails. The expected split btw generic and specific discussions, envisaged >> by Tzviya initially if I recall well, does not work in practice IMHO. >> >> Best, >> Laurent >> >> >> >> Le 4 août 2017 à 12:05, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp> a écrit >> : >> >> >> >> 2017-08-04 18:37 GMT+09:00 Hadrien Gardeur <hadrien.gardeur@feedbooks.com >> >: >> >>> For PWP the situation is a little bit more complex because the package >>>> may be 'elsewhere', ie, not on the Web but, if we regard (which I think is >>>> the case) a PWP some sort of a frozen version of a WP through some >>>> packaging, then the internal structure of a PWP would 100% reflect its >>>> 'exploded' WP ancestry. >>>> >>>> Bottom line: I do not see the problem. But that may only be me. >>>> >>> >>> For a PWP that has a WP ancestry, this is fairly easy to handle and we >>> can simply references all resources using their URL, no matter the context >>> (packaged or not). >>> For PWP with no prior WP ancestry, this might be more difficult, but I >>> don't think that this is an issue that needs to be addressed now. >>> >> >> I do not think so. I think that this issue is extremely important for >> the unification of EPUB and the Web. To me, details of manifests >> are much less important. >> >> Regards, >> Makoto >> >> >> > > > -- > > Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake > > Makoto > > > > ---- > Ivan Herman, W3C > Publishing@W3C Technical Lead > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > mobile: +31-641044153 <+31%206%2041044153> > ORCID ID: http://orcid.org/0000-0003-0782-2704 > > -- Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake Makoto
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