Re: PROV-ISSUE-14 (define-provenance-container): Definition for Concept 'Provenance container' [Provenance Terminology]

Hi all,
Regarding the discussion between Graham and Luc about the resource,
snapshot and container, I would like to link it to the notion of Provenance
Container.

What do we understand by a provenance container? Should it be a resource
(like a triple store containing just provenance triples, that may change in
the time),
snapshot(a named graph at a specific time) or a r-text?

In the Dublin Core Metadata Provenance Task Group [1], we have been
discussing
for some time how to describe the provenance of metadata. We have reused
the terms "Description" and "Description Set" [2] from DCAM [3] to group the

provenance statements and be able to assert provenance about them.
I think that a starting point for the definition of Provenance Container
could
be similar to the "Description Set" ( A set of one or more Descriptions,
each of which describes a single resource).

Why would be useful to be able to describe a provenance container? In the
example, it could be helpful to know who generated the provenance records,
if they were generated automatically or manually, and when were they
generated.
Therefore, if two different organizations create the provenance records and
there is
conflicting information about some of the resources (e.g. different author
for the
same chart), anyone can filter how they have generated each Description Set.

I'm not sure if this is within the scope of the group, but please let me
know what you
think. I'll add the info to the wiki.
Best,
Daniel
[1].- http://wiki.bib.uni-mannheim.de/dc-provenance/doku.php
[2].- http://wiki.bib.uni-mannheim.de/dc-provenance/doku.php?id=domain_model
[3].- http://dublincore.org/documents/abstract-model/


2011/5/20 Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker <sysbot+tracker@w3.org>

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> PROV-ISSUE-14 (define-provenance-container): Definition for Concept
> 'Provenance container'   [Provenance Terminology]
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> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/14
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> Raised by: Luc Moreau
> On product: Provenance Terminology
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> The Provenance WG charter identifies the concept 'Provenance container' as
> a core concept of the provenance interchange language to be standardized
> (see http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter).
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> What term do we adopt for the concept 'Provenance container'?
> How do we define the concept 'Provenance container'?
> Where does concept 'Provenance container' appear in ProvenanceExample?
> Which provenance query requires the concept 'Provenance container'?
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> Wiki page: http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptProvenanceContainer
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