# Re: PROV-ISSUE-7: trying to reach consensus on derivation (deadline: Wednesday midnight GMT)

```+1

Best,
Satya

Assistant Professor
Division of Medical Informatics, School of Medicine
& EECS Department, School of Engineering
Case Western Reserve University

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Simon Miles <simon.miles@kcl.ac.uk> wrote:

> +1
>
> (as you might expect)
>
> On 29 June 2011 08:26, Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > No response to this. Can you express your support or not in the usual
> way?
> >
> > I have altered slightly the definition to take Satya's input into
> > consideration
> >
> > PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from, created
> from,
> > or
> > affected by other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the
> > values of some invariant properties of B are at least partially
> > determined by the values of some invariant properties of A.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Luc
> >
> > On 06/27/2011 01:48 PM, Luc Moreau wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are now 10 days away from the F2F meeting. We should try to reach
> > consensus on a few definitions.
> > Last week [1], Paul suggested a definition for Derivation, and this was
> > followed by a simplified
> > definition by Simon [2], now on the wiki [3]. I copy the text here for
> your
> > convenience.
> >
> > PROPOSED: Derivation represents how stuff is transformed from or affected
> by
> > other stuff. A thing B is derived from a thing A if the values of some
> > invariant properties of B are at least partially determined by the values
> of
> > some invariant properties of A.
> >
> > We are trying to get consensus on a natural language definition for this
> > concept. It may be revisited later by the team
> > dealing with the formalization.
> >
> > Can you express your support, or alternative, for this definition? We
> would
> > like to
> > reach consensus by Wednesday midnight GMT.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Luc
> >
> > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0338.html
> > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Jun/0361.html
> > [3]
> >
> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/wiki/ConceptDerivation#Definition_by_Simon.2C_a_revision_of_Luc.27s_above
> >
> > --
> > Professor Luc Moreau
> > Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
> > University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
> > Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> > United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
> >
> >
> > --
> > Professor Luc Moreau
> > Electronics and Computer Science   tel:   +44 23 8059 4487
> > University of Southampton          fax:   +44 23 8059 2865
> > Southampton SO17 1BJ               email: l.moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> > United Kingdom                     http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~lavm
> >
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>
>
> --
> Dr Simon Miles
> Lecturer, Department of Informatics
> Kings College London, WC2R 2LS, UK
> +44 (0)20 7848 1166
>
>
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