Re: PROV-ISSUE-30 (name-for-bob): What name do we use for the BOB construct? [Conceptual Model]

Hi Khalid,
OK.  This said we have over 20 occurrences of "characterized entity" in 
the text.

We can't simply use the "expansion" everywhere. Having some terminology 
is desirable.

Do you have a suggestion?

We could also go for a typographic difference:
   BOB -> CharacterizedEntity
and we keep 'characterized entity' elsewhere.

Luc

On 21/07/2011 20:27, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
>
> Hi Luc,
>
> I guess I used the wrong term, "interchangeable". I guess that what I 
> meant is that "Characterized Entity" can be considered as a candidate 
> to replace "BOB". Of course, in that case, we will need to avoid the 
> usage of the the term "characterized entity" in the core of the 
> definition. E.g., we can use the following definition:
>
> A "Characterized Entity" is a description of the situation of an 
> entity in the world.
>
> Or something in these lines.
>
> Thanks, khalid
>
> On 21/07/2011 19:54, Luc Moreau wrote:
>> Hi Khalid,
>>
>> As far as I know, they are *not* interchangeable. One is the language 
>> construct, the other is "in the world".
>>
>> cf. definition:
>>
>> A BOB represents an identifiable
>> characterized entity.
>>
>> Should we go for "Characterized Entity", we need a typographic
>> convention to distinguish between
>>
>> the construct and the world-thing, otherwise, the reader will never
>> know whether this is language construct
>>
>> or not.
>>
>>
>> Luc
>>
>> On 21/07/2011 19:45, Khalid Belhajjame wrote:
>>>
>>> In the Provenance Model initial draft, the terms "Bob" and 
>>> "characterized entity" are used interchangeably.
>>> Characterized entity seems then to be a candidate for replacing BOB.
>>>
>>> Thanks, khalid
>>>
>>> On 21/07/2011 19:30, Provenance Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>>>> PROV-ISSUE-30 (name-for-bob): What name do we use for the BOB construct? [Conceptual Model]
>>>>
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/30
>>>>
>>>> Raised by: Luc Moreau
>>>> On product: Conceptual Model
>>>>
>>>> How do we call the construct referred to as BOB.  "BOB" was introduced as a placeholder at F2F1. Before F2F1, we use to refer to it as thing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>
>