- From: Paul Groth <p.t.groth@vu.nl>
- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:08:20 +0200
- To: Graham Klyne <GK@ninebynine.org>
- CC: "reza.bfar@oracle.com" <reza.bfar@oracle.com>, "public-prov-wg@w3.org" <public-prov-wg@w3.org>
Hi Graham, I think I've been trying to make the same point... I actually think the use of agent in provenance ontologies aligns with the use of agent in the wider world. Paul > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Graham Klyne <mailto:GK@ninebynine.org> > July 14, 2011 11:47 PM > > > Paul, all, > > I'd just note that I think that, for our purposes, widespread usage of > a term > outside the provenance community should trump established usage within > the > community. I think a big part of our goal (if not our entire goal) is > to make > the available work on provenance more widely usable. > > #g > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Paul Groth <mailto:p.t.groth@vu.nl> > July 14, 2011 8:40 PM > > > Hi Reza, All: > > I think it's important to note again that Agent is defined in a number > of other provenance ontologies and they generally share the same > meaning. Wikipedia says it nicely: > > Agent may refer to one who acts for, or in the place of, another, by > authority from him. > > But why do we need agent for provenance. My feeling is to denote > *responsibility*. > > Who owned the Picasso then? > Who approved the publication of the document? > Who can I attribute that quote to? > Who made a particular decision? > What party made this ad in a web page? > > All these use cases are about responsibility. In order for someone or > something to take responsibility they need to be able to do things > using their own volition. Agent is a good match for this because it > usually refers to a person or organization, which we know have this > ability to act on their own. When we use it in the software sense we > either mean an intelligent agent (something or to mean a proxy for > some other agent (i.e. user-agent in http). > > > In terms of trust, I would prefer that to be another discussion if > possible. One of the insights of the Provenance Incubator Group was > that provenance can be a platform for trust decisions but provenance > should not be intertwined with trust. > > Reza, I wonder if the notion of responsibility covers your trust use > case? > > Thanks, > Paul > > > > > -- Dr. Paul Groth (p.t.groth@vu.nl) http://www.few.vu.nl/~pgroth/ Assistant Professor Knowledge Representation & Reasoning Group Artificial Intelligence Section Department of Computer Science VU University Amsterdam
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