- From: Jim McCusker <mccusj@rpi.edu>
- Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 11:41:36 -0500
- To: Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk>
- Cc: Luc Moreau <L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, public-prov-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAAtgn=Rcy+0p7OPGYsaDh26XWCqZqUTXgdWMNfY+MMRgvbFpQg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes < soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > Perhaps the two of us can accept Activity for now, but have in the > back of our mind to try to think of any good "no agent, not an > activity" examples which would easily be described with PROV. I'm not > sure if the provenance of a glacier is the best fit.. :) > > I mainly objected because of the preferred style of using > PEs/activities to model "state transitions" between static entities > which are representing "the same thing in the world". If > :roofWithWater is derived from :dryRoof and :rain - then there was now > an "activity" called Raining which caused the transition - but who > performs the Raining activity? The rain? The weather? The cloud? The > roof? > That should be describable using PROV. One example that is useful to think about is a genetic disorder like Huntington's Disease. HD is a mutation in the gene that codes for huntingtin, and is deterministic: it will show up when it's going to, and won't really be affected by environment or behavior. We should be able to say things like: activity(HDOnsetInJohnDoe,HuntingtonsDisease,12/1/2011) entity(JohnDoeBeforeHDOnset) used(HDOnsetInJohnDoe,JohnDoeBeforeHDOnset) entity(JohnDoeBeforeHDOnset,[hasSymptom=Chorea]) wasGeneratedBy(JohnDoeAfterHDOnset,HDOnsetInJohnDoe) No where in this event is an agent. Calling it an activity is very awkward because of this, IMO. Jim -- Jim McCusker Programmer Analyst Krauthammer Lab, Pathology Informatics Yale School of Medicine james.mccusker@yale.edu | (203) 785-6330 http://krauthammerlab.med.yale.edu PhD Student Tetherless World Constellation Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute mccusj@cs.rpi.edu http://tw.rpi.edu
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