- From: <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
- Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 04:06:37 +0000
- To: <pierre-antoine.champin@univ-lyon1.fr>, <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk>
- CC: <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>, <public-prov-comments@w3.org>
> In Prov, prov:Entities stand for aspects/views of things, not the things themselves. Is that always the case, or only when there are alternateOf of specializationOf relationships involved? In prov-o the definition of Entity is "An entity is a physical, digital, conceptual, or other kind of thing with some fixed aspects; entities may be real or imaginary." This appears to say that Entity can be the thing itself. Simon Cox From: James Cheney Sent: 26 July 2017 18:01 To: Pierre-Antoine Champin Cc: public-prov-comments@w3.org; Stian Soiland-Reyes Subject: Re: specializationOf and inference Hi Pierre, In Prov, prov:Entities stand for aspects/views of things, not the things themselves. In your example, <#me> is a more general prov:Entity representing a person's whole existence and <#me-today> is a more specific one representing a part of that existence, so in particular we can infer <#me-today> :ssn "123456789" from <#me> :ssn "123456789". You assert that :ssn is inverse functional, which means that since the two URIs have the same predicate value, then they are equal (owl:sameAs). But this is much stronger than you want: it amounts to saying that the entity <#me> - presumably corresponding to a person's whole existence/timeline - is the same as <#me-today> which only refers to one day of that person's existence. I think in PROV terms, what would work instead is the weaker constraint that if two URIs have the same :ssn then they are prov:alternateOf each other; this says that the two URIs are aspects/views of the same thing but not that they are the same aspects/views of that thing. Hope that makes some sense, --James On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: Thanks for your comments! BTW - in PROV-DM the attributes of entities do *not* include the PROV relations, so the prov:specializationOf (and other PROV relations) are not directly inherited. (The whole purpose of specialization is to provide alternate histories or timelines of a thing) In a way just the attributes “describing” the entity are inherited. So I think your N3 rule is a bit too simple. If you include OWL functional properties as part of these attributes, then you are combining two semantic schemes, mixing PROV Constraints and OWL. I think the ‘easy’ way out here is to then use only OWL2 semantics – which in PROV-O do not imply anything from prov:specializationOf on OWL level (beyond domain/range prov:Entity and subproperty of prov:alternateOf). We did have a think about expressing the PROV Constraints in OWL – but wanted to keep that as an optional extra so it was not added to PROV-O and some of the constraints could be non-trivial in OWL2. Contributions welcome! If you want to do a richer semantics integration of PROV Constraints and OWL then you have to ensure any OWL-reasoned “sameness” don’t leak over. -- Stian Soiland-Reyes, eScience Lab School of Computer Science, The University of Manchester http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 From: Pierre-Antoine Champin Sent: 26 July 2017 15:35 To: public-prov-comments@w3.org Subject: specializationOf and inference Hi all, I'm currently interested in using prov:specializationOf, as it seems to provide a weaker (and hence more flexible) "sameness" as owl:sameAs. Indeed, the "specializer" inherits the properties of the "specializee", but not the other way around (as would be the case for owl:sameAs). More precisely, I interpret inference rule 21 [1] as the following N3 rule: { ?x1 prov:specializationOf ?x2. ?x2 ?p ?o } => { ?x1 ?p ?o } So, from <#me-today> prov:specializationOf <#me> . <#me-today> :mood :happy. <#me> foaf:name "Pierre-Antoine". I could infer <#me-today> foaf:name "Pierre-Antoine". That's very well. But now, assume that I have :ssn a owl:InverseFunctionalProperty . <#me> :ssn "123456789". Similarly, I would also infer <#me-today> :ssn "123456789". But this would also lead me to infer <#me> owl:sameAs <#me-today>. which is precisely why I wanted to avoid :-( What is wrong in my reasoning? [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-prov-constraints-20130430/#specialization-attributes-inference
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