- From: James Cheney <jcheney@inf.ed.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 17:59:38 +0100
- To: Pierre-Antoine Champin <pierre-antoine.champin@univ-lyon1.fr>
- Cc: "public-prov-comments@w3.org" <public-prov-comments@w3.org>, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk>
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Hi Pierre, In Prov, prov:Entities stand for aspects/views of things, not the things themselves. In your example, <#me> is a more general prov:Entity representing a person's whole existence and <#me-today> is a more specific one representing a part of that existence, so in particular we can infer <#me-today> :ssn "123456789" from <#me> :ssn "123456789". You assert that :ssn is inverse functional, which means that since the two URIs have the same predicate value, then they are equal (owl:sameAs). But this is much stronger than you want: it amounts to saying that the entity <#me> - presumably corresponding to a person's whole existence/timeline - is the same as <#me-today> which only refers to one day of that person's existence. I think in PROV terms, what would work instead is the weaker constraint that if two URIs have the same :ssn then they are prov:alternateOf each other; this says that the two URIs are aspects/views of the same thing but not that they are the same aspects/views of that thing. Hope that makes some sense, --James > On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <soiland-reyes@manchester.ac.uk> wrote: > > Thanks for your comments! > > BTW - in PROV-DM the attributes of entities do *not* include the PROV relations, so the prov:specializationOf (and other PROV relations) are not directly inherited. (The whole purpose of specialization is to provide alternate histories or timelines of a thing) > > In a way just the attributes “describing” the entity are inherited. So I think your N3 rule is a bit too simple. > > > If you include OWL functional properties as part of these attributes, then you are combining two semantic schemes, mixing PROV Constraints and OWL. I think the ‘easy’ way out here is to then use only OWL2 semantics – which in PROV-O do not imply anything from prov:specializationOf on OWL level (beyond domain/range prov:Entity and subproperty of prov:alternateOf). > > > We did have a think about expressing the PROV Constraints in OWL – but wanted to keep that as an optional extra so it was not added to PROV-O and some of the constraints could be non-trivial in OWL2. Contributions welcome! > > If you want to do a richer semantics integration of PROV Constraints and OWL then you have to ensure any OWL-reasoned “sameness” don’t leak over. > > -- > Stian Soiland-Reyes, eScience Lab > School of Computer Science, The University of Manchester > http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718 <http://orcid.org/0000-0001-9842-9718> > > From: Pierre-Antoine Champin <mailto:pierre-antoine.champin@univ-lyon1.fr> > Sent: 26 July 2017 15:35 > To: public-prov-comments@w3.org <mailto:public-prov-comments@w3.org> > Subject: specializationOf and inference > > Hi all, > > I'm currently interested in using prov:specializationOf, as it seems to provide a weaker (and hence more flexible) "sameness" as owl:sameAs. Indeed, the "specializer" inherits the properties of the "specializee", but not the other way around (as would be the case for owl:sameAs). > > More precisely, I interpret inference rule 21 [1] as the following N3 rule: > > { ?x1 prov:specializationOf ?x2. ?x2 ?p ?o } => { ?x1 ?p ?o } > > So, from > > <#me-today> prov:specializationOf <#me> . > <#me-today> :mood :happy. > <#me> foaf:name "Pierre-Antoine". > > I could infer > > <#me-today> foaf:name "Pierre-Antoine". > > That's very well. But now, assume that I have > > :ssn a owl:InverseFunctionalProperty . > <#me> :ssn "123456789". > > Similarly, I would also infer > > <#me-today> :ssn "123456789". > > But this would also lead me to infer > > <#me> owl:sameAs <#me-today>. > > which is precisely why I wanted to avoid :-( > > > What is wrong in my reasoning? > > > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-prov-constraints-20130430/#specialization-attributes-inference <https://www.w3.org/TR/2013/REC-prov-constraints-20130430/#specialization-attributes-inference>
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