- From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2022 13:13:08 -0500
- To: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
- Cc: "Hakkinen, Mark T" <mhakkinen@ets.org>, "kerscher@montana.com" <kerscher@montana.com>, Spoken Pronunciation Task Force <public-pronunciation@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAFmg2sUCaEHwKYdSbpxWHxK1h1V0zkvgSVv6eRE7ZHy0ph8aSQ@mail.gmail.com>
err... rather: "SSML markup has been provided for spoken presentation and pronunciation when required and appropriate" JF On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 1:11 PM John Foliot <john@foliot.ca> wrote: > Mark writes: > > > “TTS markup using the 1EdTech QTI data-ssml attribute has been provided > for spoken presentation and pronunciation of chemical formulae.” > > While this would indeed be technically correct, it sounds and feels a tad > "geeky" to me - will most ePub readers know (or care) about the *1EdTech > QTI data-ssml attribute*? Or would they be happy with (prefer) something > a bit more human readable: > > "TTS markup has been provided for spoken presentation and pronunciation > when required and appropriate" > > Asking for a friend ;-) > > JF > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:43 PM Hakkinen, Mark T <mhakkinen@ets.org> > wrote: > >> Hi George, >> >> >> >> To answer your question: >> >> >> >> > Our question, “What should be in the example text, ” >> >> >> >> >> >> We had a quick discussion in our TF meeting today. Since we do not yet >> have an agreed upon approach for spoken presentation/pronunciation control, >> perhaps the best solution is to reference what exists in EPUB3, perhaps >> something like the following: >> >> >> >> “TTS markup using the EPUB3 ssml attributes has been provided for >> phonetic pronunciation of uncommon proper names.” >> >> >> >> At the moment, EPUB3 is the only formal specification that includes >> pronunciation guidance using SSML [1], and obviously it is a publishing >> standard. >> >> >> >> Wearing my QTI hat, the 1EdTech/IMS QTI standard allows SSML, via the >> data-ssml attribute. So in the context of test publishing, an example might >> be: >> >> >> >> “TTS markup using the 1EdTech QTI data-ssml attribute has been provided >> for spoken presentation and pronunciation of chemical formulae.” >> >> >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> [1] >> https://www.w3.org/publishing/epub3/epub-contentdocs.html#sec-xhtml-ssml-attrib >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *kerscher@montana.com <kerscher@montana.com> >> *Date: *Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 7:22 PM >> *To: *'Spoken Pronunciation Task Force' <public-pronunciation@w3.org> >> *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] question from the Publishing A11Y task force >> >> *CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not >> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know >> the content is safe.* >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> In the Publishing Community Group, we have created the User Experience >> Guide to help retailers and libraries provide meaning full accessibility >> metadata. >> >> >> >> One of the Schema.org features is “TTS Markup” >> >> >> >> The guidance information says: >> >> If specific markup is provided to assist TTS pronunciation, the type >> should be included. >> >> >> >> Our question, “What should be in the example text, ” >> >> >> >> It is OK to have more than one example. It should be short and clear. We >> do not want anything long and we do not need links to specifications. >> >> >> >> Something like: >> >> >> >> TTS markup using SSML has been provided for uncommon proper names. >> >> Or >> >> XYZ markup was used for important terms. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best >> >> George >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a >> dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. 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