RE: Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference - Dec 02, 2020

Hi All,

The meeting minutes for 12/2/2020 can be found at the following link: https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html


Also, the full text of the minutes is included after my signature.

Thank you,

Dee Dyer
Assessment Process Specialist, Accessibility and Alternate Formats
Technology, Accessibility, and Innovation
ETS | Assessment & Learning Technologies Research & Development
Princeton, NJ | N-137-C | office: 609-683-2127

Out of Office Alert
Friday, Dec. 4th, attending some meetings, but out most of the day
Monday, Dec. 14th through Friday, Dec, 18th


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- DRAFT -
Spoken Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference
02 Dec 2020
Attendees
Present
IrfanA, Dee, janina, paul_grenier, mhakkinen, SteveNoble_, NeilS
Regrets
Chair
Irfan Ali
Scribe
Dee
Contents

  *   Topics<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   Agenda Review & Announcements<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#item01>
     *   Various approaches in Working Draft document (Paul & Mark)<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#item02>
     *   Joint meeting with publishing group<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#item03>
     *   Upcoming Meetings<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#item04>
  *   Summary of Action Items<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<https://www.w3.org/2020/12/02-pronunciation-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<paul_grenier> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Um3787fSY Jabberwocky By Lewis Carroll - Read by Benedict Cumberbatch

<paul_grenier> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7zR3IDEHrM THE RAVEN. EDGAR ALLAN POE. READING BY VINCENT PRICE

<IrfanA> scribe: Dee

Agenda Review & Announcements

Good news, John Folio to rejoin!

Various approaches in Working Draft document (Paul & Mark)

Paul: first public working draft will include a wider range of content to show SSML to be marked up in the various approaches.
... Then we will distribute.

<janina> https://genius.com/Ernst-toch-geographical-fugue-lyrics


Mark: working on technical document

<janina> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTaQlfiX5DQ


Paul: we want multi-attribute or JSON

Mark: include 2 proposals in the document

Paul: refer to postings in the notes for content suggestions
... need to ensure that content that is used is in the public domain
... try to create similar dramatic readings as those posted and then compare to show what can be done
... will keep looking for content that would be best for a demo
... goal to put the code in the spec and audio in the document as well

Mark: include an excerpt from the content

Paul: SSML has an audio track, do we want to embed ambient sounds as well as TTS?

Mark: we could add audio

Paul: use case -- something that has been sonified

Mark: there are cases where the sounds are only relevant if in the speech
... Insert a chime or tone in a message. Chime or tone followed by the message. We could have an example of this.

Paul: Leaning toward using The Raven for content.

Mark: will provide the alert message example
... will work on structure for JSON.

Joint meeting with publishing group

<SteveNoble_> have to jump over to another meeting

Irfan: Suggestion made to have a separate meeting. Coordination efforts in progress.

Janina: suggest this hour

Irfan: Will continue working on scheduling.
... try for next week

Janina: we have two more meetings after today for this year.

Upcoming Meetings

already covered

No other business.

<paul_grenier> Thanks Dee!

trackbot, end meeting

Summary of Action Items
Summary of Resolutions
[End of minutes]
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From: Ali, Irfan <iali@ets.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 1:52 PM
To: Pronunciation Task Force <public-pronunciation@w3.org>; 'Xu, Jeff' <zheng.xu@rakuten.com>
Subject: Pronunciation Task Force Teleconference - Dec 02, 2020

Call Agenda

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Agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements

Agenda+ Various approaches in CR document (Paul & Mark)

Agenda+ Joint meeting with publishing group

Agenda+ Upcoming Meetings

Agenda+ Other Business

Call Details

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Irfan Ali
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Accessibility Standards & Inclusive Technology Group (ASIT)
C-130, 660 Rosedale Road
Princeton, NJ 08541
Phone: (O)609-524-8181
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Email: iali@ets.org<mailto:iali@ets.org>

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