Re: Status of First-Party Sets

Hi Travis!

On 2022-06-06 14:09, Travis Leithead wrote:
>  > [..] I’m unsure how one would go about removing FPS from WICG. 
> Perhaps the WICG chairs can advise?
> 
> The WICG is home to over 120 <https://wicg.io/> unique incubations at 
> varying stages of maturity and implementation. While I have been a 
> co-chair, we have graduated numerous proposals into other venues, and 
> archived others at the request of their owners, but we've never forcibly 
> removed any incubations (even when they appear inactive for years). I 
> think it would set a bad precedent to start now. The WICG is a field for 
> sowing ideas; for this reason our criteria for acceptance is very low.

I think a potentially important point is at risk of finding itself 
buried under James's usual anti-privacy activism.

The status of FPS in WICG is unusual and (to me) unexpected. The WICG is 
intended for incubation of new features and early standard proposals. 
FPS has already been incubated quite a lot, and the incubation didn't 
pan out. I'm not suggesting that FPS be shut down — as we all know, 
sometimes standards take trying more than once — but I would encourage 
WICG chairs to be particularly careful that it does not impinge upon the 
WICG's reputation. There is already significant grumbling in the 
community that the WICG is primarily a venue for the standards-washing 
of Google's plans; it would be very unfortunate if the WICG found itself 
used as justification to ship FPS in a browser.

It also appears that Kaustubha and the Privacy CG chairs have a 
different appreciation of the status of implementer support. Given the 
importance that having multiple implementations holds in our processes 
and community, this is an issue that seems worth clarifying. Kaustubha: 
do you mind explaining your conclusion on this point? Again, I don't 
think that having just one implementer interested means FPS shouldn't go 
to the WICG (some things there have zero implementers interested and 
that's fine!) but we should at least be able to reach consensus on who 
is interested and how that impacts the legitimacy of shipping the feature!

-- 
Robin Berjon
VP Data Governance
Acting VP Marketing Analytics
The New York Times Company

Received on Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:53:16 UTC