Re: Privacy CG - New Teleconference Zoom Room

Howdy ya'll, I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in -- I did a
privacy/security audit of video chat systems about a year ago, zoom
certainly had plenty of problems but they *all do* as Tom mentions. I never
found a single "video conference solution" that both protected users
privacy AND had any decent service for diverse-geographic group chats.

That being said, there ARE some settings in Zoom that we should be
choosing, and we should probably have an "Independent Settings Check" done
by someone on the Zoom account that this group is using on some sporadic
basis. There are a few settings like the "Attention Tracking" that users
won't know admins turned on. There's also a few helpful settings like the
"Mask phone number in participant list" that i'd love for us to turn on:
[image: My_Settings_-_Zoom.jpg]

Thanks for the dialog and trying to find the best solution here!

Sincerely,
Zach






On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 2:12 AM Tom Lowenthal <tom@brave.com> wrote:

> Though the EFF’s concerns are quite reasonable, I would very much prefer
> to continue using Zoom.
>
> I am happy to rely on Mozilla’s Zoom administrators not to behave
> unreasonably. If we do end up reconsidering our conferencing tool of
> choice, I suspect that every tool we examine will have some substantial
> drawbacks. That seems like perfect ground for an ongoing and perhaps
> unproductive debate among competing priorities.
>
> —Tom
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:53 PM John Wilander <wilander@apple.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I’ve previously raised concerns regarding Zoom in the W3C WebAppSec WG.
>> Here’s the EFF’s recent commentary:
>>
>> “There are a few things to keep in mind when using Zoom, particularly in
>> instances where users are relying on the conferencing tool for their
>> studies, or for work-related activities.
>>
>> ## Attendee Attention-Tracking
>>
>> The host of a Zoom call has the capacity to monitor the activities of
>> attendees while screen-sharing. This functionality is available in Zoom
>> version 4.0 and higher. If attendees of a meeting do not have the Zoom
>> video window in focus during a call where the host is screen-sharing, after
>> 30 seconds the host can see indicators next to each participant’s name
>> indicating that the Zoom window is not active.
>>
>> ## Administrators and User Tracking
>>
>> Zoom allows administrators to see detailed views on how, when, and where
>> users are using Zoom, with detailed dashboards in real-time of user
>> activity. Zoom also provides a ranking system of users based on total
>> number of meeting minutes. If a user records any calls via Zoom,
>> administrators can access the contents of that recorded call, including
>> video, audio, transcript, and chat files, as well as access to sharing,
>> analytics, and cloud management privileges.
>>
>> For any meeting that has occurred or is in-process, Zoom allows
>> administrators to see the operating system, IP address, location data, and
>> device information of each participant. This device information includes
>> the type of machine (PC/Mac/Linux/mobile/etc), specs on the make/model of
>> your peripheral audiovisual devices like cameras or speakers, and names for
>> those devices (for example, the user-configurable names given to AirPods).
>> Administrators also have the ability to join any call at any time on their
>> organization’s instance of Zoom, without in-the-moment consent or warning
>> for the attendees of the call.”
>>
>>
>> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis
>>
>> Can we find a more privacy preserving conferencing product for Privacy CG
>> meetings? Thanks!
>>
>>    Regards, John
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Tanvi Vyas <tanvi@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi,
>> We've move to a different zoom room for our biweekly teleconferences.  If
>> you have created a calendar invite for our calls, please update it with
>> this:
>>
>> Meeting ID: 769 153 986
>> https://mozilla.zoom.us/j/769153986
>>
>> We will use it for our next teleconference on Thursday at 9am PST.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> ~Tanvi
>>
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