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Re: Process CG conversations about horizontal review

From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 09:24:19 -0700
Cc: "public-privacy (W3C mailing list)" <public-privacy@w3.org>, "public-web-security@w3.org" <public-web-security@w3.org>
Message-id: <DD008DCC-BED3-4784-BFC9-E5CD4CFE9B43@apple.com>
To: Samuel Weiler <weiler@w3.org>
Hi Sam, thanks for the note…

one observation and a correction below:

* we get a lot of complaints, even from experienced W3Cers, that they don’t know what is required, or how to get it done. We need much better guidance.

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 8:34 , Samuel Weiler <weiler@w3.org> wrote:
> 
> FYI, the W3C Process Community Group (CG) is discussing Process changes around horizontal review (HR), including:
> 
> -- automatic triggering events, like publishing a FPWD, and
> -- making (asking for) review mandatory.
> 
> While this has some obvious charms, I have some concerns.
> 
> -- Automatic triggers won't indicate if a group has done the prerequisite work HR groups expect of them (in our case, going though the Questionnaire and fingerprinting guidance docs and writing Privacy and Security considerations sections in their docs).
> 
> -- They're nailing down too much in Process, which may make it harder for us to introduce improvements.

I don’t think we have decided anything yet, in the process CG, beyond that Leonie’s text is an improvement on the status quo, and that we’d like to separate out the requirements (in the process) from the guidance (somewhere else)

But yes, please help. There is a real tension between the continuous model (make sure you’re on the radar of the HR groups early, flag things that might need their attention, and so on) and the periodic model (you have to get sign-off at some points, or show you’ve tried to get it and given enough time, and so on). Balancing these is hard.

> 
> 
> If you're interested, the Process CG discussion can be found in:
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/issues/130
> https://github.com/w3c/w3process/pull/401
> 
> Additionally, the guidance we're publishing for how to ask for reviews is at:
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/DocumentReview#How_to_get_horizontal_review
> 
> -- Sam
> 
> 
> [This note is being CC'ed to the Web Security IG.  While the WebSec IG is closed, its list is still active, and WGs are directed to request reviews on this list.  W3C Team (me!) is coordinating getting reviews from individual volunteer reviewers.  If you would like to join that pool and do the occasional doc review, drop me a note.]
> 
> 

David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
Received on Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:24:39 UTC

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