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RE: Lightning talk at W3C camp

From: Chappelle, Kasey, Vodafone Group <Kasey.Chappelle@vodafone.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:52:01 +0000
To: Marcos Caceres <marcosscaceres@gmail.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
CC: Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com>, Peter Kraker <peter.kraker@tugraz.at>, "public-privacy@w3.org" <public-privacy@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CB93C559BC241B488C9B3D3E8C4B096E02875A@VOEXM09W.internal.vodafone.com>
The right to be left alone or the right to be anonymous are only parts of the right to privacy (the right and ability to withhold certain information). It's more broadly about the right to informational self-determination. Not just you can have my info or you can't have my info, but maybe I want you to have it only for certain reasons and not for others. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcos Caceres [mailto:marcosscaceres@gmail.com] 
Sent: 18 April 2012 14:45
To: Dan Brickley
Cc: Karl Dubost; Peter Kraker; public-privacy@w3.org
Subject: Re: Lightning talk at W3C camp

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Dan Brickley wrote:

> On 18 April 2012 15:22, Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com (mailto:karld@opera.com)> wrote:
> >  
> > Le 18 avr. 2012 à 09:11, Dan Brickley a écrit :
> > > The 'privacy is dead, get over it' line risks having us give up on 
> > > the possibility for private online communication rather 
> > > prematurely.
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > And… it is not true. Once again, what is privacy (in _your own_ definition)?
> > I have my own idea, but I'm curious about this line of thought.
> > Could Peter or Dan explain?
> I won't attempt an inclusive definition - it's probably a loose 
> family-resemblance kind of concept.
> But in this context - I value in particular the ability for people to 
> say and do things online with some technically and social/legally 
> grounded evidence that unexpected others aren't monitoring and logging 
> one's activities, e.g. to allow anonymous or pseudonymous activities.
> In practice, you have to be very technical and have time on your hands 
> to achieve that without placing some trust in big companies to (a) 
> behave well (b) be easily infiltrated (c) be forced into misbehaviour 
> by govts.

I like "the right to be let alone". It's clear and simple, and defines privacy as a right (which should be protected by law). 

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