- From: Kai Weber <sermo_de_arboribus@seznam.cz>
- Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 18:10:57 +0100 (CET)
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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><br>Another user case, from the wish-list of the non-fiction book publishing company that employs me:<br>Take author's manuscripts written in MS Word, using a rigid style guide that uses paragraph stylings to mark up structural / semantical information (e.g. "This paragraph is a definition, this paragraph is an example, this paragraph is normal text"). Pour the MS Word data into some professional WYSIWYG typesetting program, while maintaining the semantic/structural information of the manuscript. Produce print-ready PDF galleys of possibly sophisticated layouts (with tables, margin notes or other multi-column features, images, table and image captions, icons, etc.), let the authors do proof-reading using those galleys, then export print-PDF, e-book-PDF (with bookmarks and other extra features), EPUB from your typesetting program. Also export / convert back to an MS Word file, freeing the document from purely visual information and getting it back into a form that fits the original MS Word style guide.<br>This user case doesn't exist yet in our house, it's what we're dreaming of. The type of literature published is professional literature for people working in special needs education, psychology / psychotherapy, social work or elderly people's care.<br>By the way, though Jean's long article has been criticized for not being objective: I can second most of its statements. The reasons for not implementing an XSL-FO-based production chain in our company are exactly like what Jean described. I've run a sample project with going from Office Open XML through a cleaned custom XML to XSL-FO this year. For producing 1 book I've run the XSL-FO engine more than a hundred times, tweaking here and there. The production department printed intermediate PDF galleys, marked the - mostly visual - corrections that they needed and I manually modified the FO file to get the results they wanted. That was a rather painful process - and it would have been impossible, if they had to do it by themselves, as none of them seems to be willing to invest time in learning XSL-FO.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Kai Weber<br><br><br><p>---------- Původnà zpráva ----------<br>Od: Dave Pawson <dave.pawson@gmail.com><br>Datum: 29. 12. 2013<br>PÅ™edmÄ›t: Re: Revise group description?</p><br><blockquote>Fair point.<br>A simple user case.<br> Many disparate documents, all in XML. I want 'decent' (easy to read)<br>print. I generally use docbook stylesheets or tweak my own generic.<br>Key point. No layout requirements which might be seen as verging on<br>paranoia and harking back to manual typesetting.<br><br>DaveP<br><br>On 29 December 2013 10:03, Patrick Gundlach <gundlach@speedata.de> wrote:<br>> Its interesting to see the different backgrounds we all have and thus we have different demands for creating paged media.<br>><br>> Perhaps we should collect more use cases to define the group? Perhaps the use cases are too distinct from each other that it's impossible to get them all in one group?<br>><br>> I have now invested more than two man-years into my product to be able to create the documents I want (demanding product catalogs for example) which I was unable to do with any other software that I am aware of. Perhaps the requirements are totally different from those for the other people here?<br>><br>> I think we should discuss the goal of our group before we can move forward. XMLPrague could be a good place to have at least some people together.<br>><br>> Patrick<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> speedata UG (haftungsbeschränkt)<br>> -------------------------------------<br>> Telefon 030/57705055<br>> Mobil 0178/1967142<br>> Mail gundlach@speedata.de<br>> Web www.speedata.de<br>><br>> Eisenacher Straße 101<br>> 10781 Berlin<br>> -------------------------------------<br>> Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 135360 B<br>> Geschäftsführer: Patrick Gundlach<br>> USt-IdNr: DE278023065<br>><br>><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Dave Pawson<br>XSLT XSL-FO FAQ.<br>Docbook FAQ.<br>http://www.dpawson.co.uk</blockquote></body></html>--=_4fc797b11ec06d473859b9e8é14f05d-7b5d-503a-9d22-babcb4583d20_=--
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