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Re: Facebook's definition of a Place

From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:45:29 +0100
Cc: Marengo Marco <marco.marengo@telecomitalia.it>, "public-poiwg@w3.org" <public-poiwg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1B02B3B1-39B7-4872-B2FB-2EB031FD198B@danbri.org>
To: Jens de Smit <jens.desmit@surfnet.nl>




On 4 Nov 2010, at 14:56, Jens de Smit <jens.desmit@surfnet.nl> wrote:

> On 04/11/2010 14:52, Dan Brickley wrote:
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>> On 4 Nov 2010, at 14:00, Marengo Marco <marco.marengo@telecomitalia.it> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>> you may have heard that Facebook opened its APIs for reading (ok, it was available since a few months) and writing (since yesterday). I think Facebook's definition of "POI" might be interesting for our WG, even if it looks a bit too simple to me.
>> 
>> Yes, imho this is very relevant. See also their http://opengraphprotocol.org which has some basic location pieces too, in RDFa. I think dealing with multiple notations will be inevitable for this wg.
> 
> One thing I'm worried about when using multiple notations is that, as a
> user/developer you will need tools to convert between one notation and
> the other. Won't this be very obfuscated to the uninitiated and thereby
> prevent adoption?
> 

Well, i guess what I mean is that gazetteers, gml, kml, georss, geojson, facebook stuff, various AR things, plus essential associated info about places ... these are all very much deployed and won't go away in a hurry. So I see our work in large part, as inventing and deploying a convincing story for how poi info in any of these environments can flow around, without too much loss of meaning, damage to extension info, etc. 

In other words, multiple formats are a fact of life and hopefully we'll do something more useful than just adding yet another format to support. At some point I'd like to see a test cases repository with descriptions of 1000 POI items, mapped to various formats and to use cases. If we get 1000 and handle say 12 diverse use cases, from shopping guide, tourism and education to emergency response and grassroots journalism, games and accessibility; and if we then show how those items look in kml, gml, geojson, facebook rdfa etc, including URIs for linking, and extensibility fields, ... then I'd say we were done for a v1.0. Is that a realistic hope? :)

Cheers,

Dan


> Regards,
> 
> Jens
Received on Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:46:56 UTC

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