Minutes from PEWG meeting 21 May 2025

Dear all,

the minutes from today's meeting are at 
https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-pointerevents-minutes.html and copied below:


PEWG
21 May 2025

Agenda: 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/66591f6b-6694-4f90-b23d-bf8f1b9dda8a/20250521T110000/
IRC log: https://www.w3.org/2025/05/21-pointerevents-irc

Attendees:
flackr, mustaq, Patrick_H_Lauke, plh, smaug

Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke



* Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 
w3c/pointerevents#445 / 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+

* Any particular new issues filed? 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues

* TPAC 2025




# Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 
w3c/pointerevents#445 / 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+

PLH: i have a task to make a list of all new features and their WPTs. 
i'm also planning to add links in the spec itself in the right places

PLH: hitting some respec shortcomings, but working around it

PLH: let me know if this slows you down

Patrick: going through the 2 that we still have marked as needs-wpt:

Patrick: w3c/pointerevents#534

Mustaq: no progress from me...YET

Patrick: next w3c/pointerevents#509

Olli: there's a comment from me ... somewhere (bugzilla?) where I asked 
Masayuki to write a test

<smaug> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1965118

Olli: that's the equivalent on bugzilla .... he's testing all the 
possible weird cases

Olli: pointerrawupdate should be shipping in Firefox 140

Olli: current nightly, so should release in... June?

Olli: confirming pointerrawupdate is enabled by default

ACTION: mustaq to address #534, olli to check with masayuki for #509



# Any particular new issues filed? 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues

Olli: I think Masayuki filed an interesting recent one...

<smaug> w3c/pointerevents#508 (comment)

Olli: thats mainly question for you Mustaq. Masayuki changed Firefox 
behaviour to follow Chrome behaviour...

Mustaq: spec/implementation was written more in a mouse-centric view. 
there is some hack there

Olli: it's also hacky in Firefox, but yeah there is a compat issue

ACTION: Mustaq to review latest on #508

Patrick: btw I changed labels in our issue tracker ... what used to be 
"future" is now "v4" (as the future is now)

Patrick: but we're not committing to doing them of course, we can still 
kick them into longer grass / close

PLH: i'd advise not to rush into doing v4 stuff while we're still in CR 
for v3

Patrick: any other issues? latest from Masayuki seem to be edge cases, 
but don't think we need to try to sneak them into v3

Olli: the dragstart one #552 I think is clear, just that it's defined in 
HTML spec rather than PE

[discussion on other issues]

<smaug> Just FYI, interop-25 (even though the url has 2023 in it) 
https://wpt.fyi/results/pointerevents?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&view=interop&q=label%3Ainterop-2023-events



# TPAC 2025

Patrick: just mentioning that it looks almost certain that I *will* be 
physically at TPAC, so worth exploring further if there are any other 
groups we want to meet with/discuss things (for those coming, I believe 
Olli is also planning to be there)

Olli: yes

Patrick: I was thinking for instance Internationalisation and/or CSSWG 
on the topic of logical values for touch-action - we have my naive draft 
PR from ages ago, would be good to get feedback from them on whether 
we're on right track

Rob: another interesting discussion would also be panning with mouse and 
how that could be accommodated through touch-action

Patrick: is that in context of CSS-based carousels?

Rob: not necessarily tied to them, but yes authors will likely want to 
use that capability in combination with carousels

Patrick: excellent, for next meeting, I'll start jotting down some more 
fleshed out ideas of which groups we should ask/approach about possible 
quick meetings while at TPAC. deadline is... 20 June I believe, to let 
organisers know about group meetings

Patrick: as ever, thank you all - particularly thank you to Philippe for 
the work on the spec linking to WPTs. catch you next time


# Summary of action items

* mustaq to address #534, olli to check with masayuki for #509
* Mustaq to review latest on #508


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Patrick H. Lauke

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Received on Wednesday, 21 May 2025 15:38:41 UTC