Minutes from PEWG meeting 3 July 2024

Dear all,

the minutes from the short meeting today are at 
https://www.w3.org/2024/07/03-pointerevents-minutes.html and copied below:


PEWG
03 July 2024

Agenda: 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/16b7312b-55ac-4645-8312-0d8103f75519/20240703T110000/
IRC log: https://www.w3.org/2024/07/03-pointerevents-irc

Attendees
flackr, Patrick_H_Lauke

Regrets
Olli

Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke



* Multi-pen support and persistent pointerId #353 w3c/pointerevents#353

* Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 #445 
w3c/pointerevents#445

* Quick sense-check of Touch Events update for CG-Final w3c/touch-events#137

* TPAC 2024 PEWG meeting with UI Events

* AOB some issues in repo

* Wide review


# Multi-pen support and persistent pointerId #353 w3c/pointerevents#353

Rob: PR has been updated for this, worth having a look over again. Then 
the question we had before about where do we merge this

Patrick: not heard back about the process. Will just go ahead and create 
a vNext branch and merge it there

Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 #445 
w3c/pointerevents#445
Rob: believe Mustaq made some progress

Patrick: that's my memory from last time as well, but it's ok not in a 
major rush



# Quick sense-check of Touch Events update for CG-Final w3c/touch-events#137

Patrick: can we take a minute to check wording is ok

Rob: looks good to me

Patrick: I will push this update and contact Ian Jacobs / W3C to move it 
to the right place



# TPAC 2024 PEWG meeting with UI Events

Patrick: don't have exact time/date, but I think it'll be Monday

Rob: I will try to register soon for TPAC, get approvals etc

Patrick: so topic of meeting generally "to discuss the Pointer Events 
specification and its dependencies on the UI Events specification, 
particularly regarding DOM mutations and interoperability issues with 
pointer events."

Rob: the concept of "capture" doesn't exist in UI Events, so in PE we 
say we change the target

Rob: similarly, changing the way mouse events are based on pointer event 
target as they can be different



# AOB some issues in repo

Patrick: https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues

Patrick: issues from Masayuki who I believe is at Mozilla 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/created_by/masayuki-nakano

Patrick: would be good to triage them. if they only require 
clarification/wording, we can do it. If it needs more reworking, then 
leave after Level 3

Rob: they both seem fairly simple to address with wording

Rob: relates to targeting for click/double-click, so need to clarify this

ACTION: for all group to review unlabelled issues, decide if appropriate 
for Level 3, and propose new wording etc where needed



Patrick: wanted a sense check - this came from internationalisation wide 
review w3c/pointerevents#505

Patrick: we already have the PR i did that defines the logical values, 
but how easy/hard would it be to add this to Level 3

Patrick: we *could* add it and mark it as at risk?

Rob: if we can do it in a non-breaking way, then sure

Rob: the tricky part i can foresee is if sites rely on hardcoded 
computed values

Rob: but we can work around it by saying the computed value then still 
resolves to whatever the physical value is

Rob: would be good to review the PR first before pushing it 
w3c/pointerevents#496

ACTION: group to review draft PR for next meeting and decide if we want 
to incorporate into Level 3



# Wide review

Patrick: received reviews from DAS WG, Touch Events CG, Webapps

Patrick: i18n, TAG

Patrick: not heard from security and privacy

Patrick: thank you, adjourning until 2 weeks' time


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Received on Wednesday, 3 July 2024 15:43:13 UTC