Minutes from Pointer Events WG call 29 March 2023

Dear all,

the (admittedly extremely short) minutes from today's meeting are at 
https://www.w3.org/2023/03/29-pointerevents-minutes.html and copied below:

PEWG
29 March 2023
Agenda: 
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/81ad3e7c-6dde-48ec-8693-09a9adea9f69/20230329T110000

Attendees:
flackr, mustaq, Patrick_H_Lauke, smaug


Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke, Patrick_H_Lauke



* TPAC 2023

* Investigate if tangentialPressure is correctly implemented/working in 
browsers/documented appropriately in spec

* Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 
w3c/pointerevents#445

* Heartbeat: Clarify what the target of the click event should be after 
capturing pointer events w3c/pointerevents#356



# TPAC 2023

Patrick: just checking if you are attending TPAC this year?

[Olli and Rob say yes]

Patrick: I might be physically there as well this year. So we ok to say 
tentatively that we'll go for a short 90 minute session?

[Group agrees]

Patrick: we might even be at the stage then when most of our work on v3 
is done and we just do a live meeting to agree to push the button to go 
for publication etc

Rob: maybe Intel will want to re-present their session from last time

Patrick: ah yes, you weren't there. They might yes, or they may present 
separately/independently from us

[Group does a quick recap of what was presented]

ACTION: Patrick to check what is required in terms of 
requesting/scheduling session at TPAC


# Investigate if tangentialPressure is correctly implemented/working in 
browsers/documented appropriately in spec w3c/pointerevents#467

<mustaq> (I plan to join TPAC too)

Patrick: since the last meeting, I looked at implementations and filed 
bugs against Chrome and Firefox. but the spec *is* correct, despite the 
weird naming (which I believe came from HID originally). I do plan on 
adding an extra non-normative note to explain that despite the name 
"tangentialPressure" it may or may not actually have anything to do with 
pressure. and that it doesn't interact with the "pressure" value. Wacom 
diagnostic tool calls it "Wheel"

Rob: is there any scope for us renaming tangentialPressure?

Patrick: doubt it, it's been there since v1, and the name does come from 
I believe the HID

Olli: there's only support on macOS, so maybe we can...

<smaug> 
https://het.as.utexas.edu/HET/Software/html/qtabletevent.html#tangentialPressure

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsevent/1525959-tangentialpressure

ACTION: Patrick to write small additional note, we're not going to 
rename the property due to prior art/other places that use the term, as 
unfortunate as it is, then close the issue


# Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 
w3c/pointerevents#445

Go over 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=is%3Aclosed+label%3Aneeds-wpt+

Mustaq: I have a few more in a local patch, slowly working on this

Patrick: if anybody needs help, shout (if they can help me set up local 
env etc)

Olli: yes I need to fix some of mine



# Heartbeat: Clarify what the target of the click event should be after 
capturing pointer events w3c/pointerevents#356
Patrick: as ever, don't think we've had much progress on this

Patrick: we probably need to start planning what we do with 
this...whether we add a note to spec, quietly ignore it...

Mustaq: there's always a risk changing code in Chrome

Olli: same for Firefox

Patrick: maybe for next meeting we should re-familiarise ourselves with 
this, and make a commitment that we'll make some decision on this either way

[some more discussion to re-familiarise ourselves]

Rob: I'd be interested about what Safari (Mobile) does here. we should 
add that to ticket. mouse is the easy scenario, we need to look at touch 
and harmonise on that

Mustaq: if we could test on mobile for touch and add those results to 
the table, that would help

ACTION: Patrick to test and document #356 on touch

<Github> w3c/pointerevents#356 : Clarify what the target of the click 
event should be after capturing pointer events

Mustaq: I think in principle we're agreed it's the right thing to do, 
but need to run a trial to help decide

Patrick: pre-warning you that I'm on holiday in 2 weeks' time, so next 
meeting will be in 4 weeks. Thank you all



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