Minutes from Pointer Events WG call 24 May 2023

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PEWG
24 May 2023

Agenda:

Attendees : Mustaq, Patrick_H_Lauke, plh, smaug
Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
Scribe  Patrick H. Lauke, Patrick_H_Lauke



* Administrative items from PLH
* TPAC
* Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3
* Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing 
pointer events



# Administrative items from PLH

PLH: we are switching from WebEx to Zoom. I will do it for the upcoming 
meetings. In next meeting, highlight that we are switching

PLH: secondly, we realised that we're out of charter, which is not a 
problem unless you want to publish

PLH: i assume you don't want changes to charter?

Patrick: correct, we just want to roll it over

PLH: as you're in process 2020...we'll just extend it and you shouldn't 
even see the difference

Mustaq: wondering about moving to living standard...

PLH: that's a separate conversation if you want to stay with versions or 
living standard. need to decide before you go to proposed 
recommendation.

PLH: you can also "allow" it but still do something else, not 
necessarily living standard

PLH: i can phrase it in the charter description. usually good to be 
clear in charter

PLH: for low level specs, living standard is good. hard versioning is 
usually best for things like WCAG that need to be referenced by 
legislation etc

Mustaq: we can file as a bug to move to living standard after v3

PLH: even if charter says living standard, group can still decide not to 
do it. it's a declaration of intent, not a commitment

PLH: in fact, we can move to living standard...

Patrick: in which case, let's go for it



# TPAC

Patrick: i filed thursday evening as session, as discussed in last 
meeting



# Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3
w3c/pointerevents#445

Patrick: Olli just filed another WPT before our call

Olli: I landed something in mozilla central, it may not have shown up on 
github yet

Olli: we really need to just set some time aside and try to fix 
these...2 tests per week or something, not much, but might be doable. 
asked Edgar for help as well

<mustaq> We can possibly include *is_a_pointerevent* wpts in Interop 
2024.

Olli: mustaq did you manage to ask anybody else's help for writing WPTs?

<mustaq> 
https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues?q=label%3Aneeds-wpt+

PAtrick: how many issues do we have? ... 10

Olli: maybe spend some time next week to get the list down?

Mustaq: what if in June or July we have some days in the week blocked 
(like a Monday) to get this done?

Olli: July is holiday time, but June would be good

Mustaq: my last two weeks of June are very busy...

Mustaq: let's try before next meeting to get some of these moving, and 
see where we're at

Patrick: I can also look at these and think about how i'd test, but not 
familiar with how to ACTUALLY do a WPT

Mustaq: so maybe we can also talk Patrick through how to do WPTs

ACTION: before next meeting, Olli to look at 4 WPTs, Mustaq to do 2 
WPTs, Patrick to send reminder a week before



# Clarify what the target of the click event should be after capturing 
pointer events
w3c/pointerevents#356

Patrick: at last meeting i shared some results, expanded to also include 
more results WITHOUT explicit release

Olli: maybe action item for myself to look at Gecko implementation to 
refresh my mind on what we do

Mustaq: [looking at difference for second case why chrome/win different 
from chrome/android]

ACTION: review the tables in more details. Patrick to see if outlier 
results can be highlighted. mostly just show click differences for 
clarity

<mustaq> Re living standard: just filed this to track it 
w3c/pointerevents#471

PLH: I shared the link to the calendar in the webex chat where you can 
get to the zoom link for the meeting 
https://www.w3.org/users/myprofile/calendar

PLH: i restricted the joining information

Patrick: perfect, thank you

Summary of action items



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