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Re: Standardisation of Gesture events

From: Damien Antipa <dantipa@adobe.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:50:17 +0000
To: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com>, "www-dom@w3.org" <www-dom@w3.org>
CC: "public-pointer-events@w3.org" <public-pointer-events@w3.org>, "public-touchevents@w3.org" <public-touchevents@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CFE4658D.72611%dantipa@adobe.com>


On 09/07/14 13:35, "Arthur Barstow" <art.barstow@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Damien,
>
>
>On 7/8/14 4:18 AM, Damien Antipa wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if there is any ongoing effort to standardise higher
>>level
>> events for gestures?
>
>I am not aware of any such at effort at the W3C (although the InidieUI
>might be doing some work that is loosely related
><http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/>).
>
>Gestures were discussed when the Web Events WG (Touch Event API) was
>chartered and they were explicitly *not* included in scope because of
>IP/patent concerns
><http://www.w3.org/2010/webevents/charter/Overview.html>.

Was there an investigation which patents are exactly covering this?
Or was this an precautions assumption?

>
>
>> The only related documents I could find are [0] from 2009 and a
>> proprietary Microsoft implementation [1].
>>
>> In case there is none Id like to start one.
>
>Perhaps starting a Community Group would be a good way to get started.
>
>(If you decide to go that route and need a supporter, please let me
>know. I don't know if I would actually formally join such a CG but I do
>support having a Public conversation about this topic.)


Well, yes. Id like to. Any process I have to follow to do so?
I guess Id need a certain amount of people to work with me on it, I cant
be the community on my own.

>
>> Currently I am writing (yet another) JS library [2] to support some
>> gestures like tap, dbltap, hold, pinch, flick, swipe.
>> Other libraries like Hammer [3] cant handle multiple pointers
>> simultaneously or lack of accuracy when detecting gesture [4] (e.g. Hold
>> is not aborted on move).
>>
>> Imho a specification should cover a Gesture interfaces and its
>>properties
>> + constraints like the maximum movement (in inch) for a pointer to be
>> recognised as a tap or the hold" time. Eventually this should lead to
>> that browsers handle gestures rather than a JS library.
>>
>> Any interest on that?
>
>I Cc'ed the Touch Events CG and Pointer Events WG lists since some of
>those people might be interested.
>
>-AB

Thanks, 
Damien

>
>
>> Regards,
>> Damien
>>
>>
>> [0] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2009AprJun/0134.html

>> [1] 
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn433243%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

>> [2] https://github.com/PolyTouch/PolyTouch.js

>> [3] http://eightmedia.github.io/hammer.js/

>> [4] https://github.com/Polymer/PointerGestures/

>> [5]
>> 
>>http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2010-February/279622.

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