- From: Renato Iannella <renato.iannella@monegraph.com>
- Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 20:58:48 +1000
- To: POE Public <public-poe-wg@w3.org>
Thanks Michael…that is looking good. To the rest of the WG, are there any serious objections to this approach described below? (or any feedback/updates?) @ben and @simon - does it fit your viewpoints? If ok, then the editors will make it section 2.6.8 of the ODRL IM (with some word-smithing ;-) The goal is to have a version by Monday for voting for CR. Renato > On 6 Sep 2017, at 18:30, Michael Steidl (IPTC) <mdirector@iptc.org> wrote: > > Two notes on that: > > 1) re "implementations": we should make a distinction between "business > implementations" and "software implementations" > - business ... = a party uses ODRL for retrieving rights-relevant > information. In this case the party needs clear rules for what to infer from > e.g. Not-Satisfied constraints regarding the final outcome of a Rule - this > should not be open to individual interpretations. (And such rules should > drive requirements for software implementations.) > - software ... = how the evaluation outlined by the ODRL IM is translated > into software is completely up to the implementor. It is only relevant to > deliver results as defined by the IM. > > 2) re the ODRL Evaluator rules below: that goes in the right direction for > me, thanks Renato. > My a bit more granular version is: > - Determine if constraints of a Rule and if refinements of an Action of this > Rule have been Satisfied > - Determine if a Duty (used by duty in Permissions, remedy in Prohibitions, > consequence in some kinds of a Duty) has been fulfilled > - Determine if a Permission is allowed to be exercised > - Determine if a Prohibition is violated (violated = the requirement not to > exercise an action has not been fulfilled) > - Determine if an Obligation should be exercised. > > The statement "An ODRL Evaluator MUST be able to process Rules to ... (all > items) ..." is a first level specification. > > I think the IM MUST also define how these 5 listed to-be-determined states > have to be evaluated by generic rules as second level specification: > > * Constraints (used with constraint or refinement): the IM Processing Rules > should state for the (atomic) Constraints that the evaluation of their > Satisfied state heavily relies on the semantics of the left operands and > they are covered by Profiles. (Note: the Core IM does not define any > leftOperand - conclusion: for any Constraint a Profile is required!) The > rules for Logical Constraints are in 2.5.2. > > * Special and generic rule for Duty, Permission, Prohibition and Obligation: > if any of the existing constraints/refinements of its action is > Not-Satisfied is has to be considered as not-existing for any further > evaluations. > > * Duty (used with duty, remedy, consequence): to be Fulfilled all its > existing constraints/refinements of its action must be Satisfied; the action > must be exercised, if not all existing consequences must be Fulfilled. Else > the Duty is Not-Fulfilled. > > * Permission: to be Allowed-to-be-exercised all its existing > constraints/refinements of its action must be Satisfied, all its duty(ies) > must be Fulfilled. Else the Permission should not be exercised. > > * Prohibition: to be Not-Violated its constraints/refinements of its action > must be Satisfied; its action must not be exercised, if it has been > exercised all existing remedy(ies) must be Fulfilled. Else the Permission > has been Violated. > > * Obligation (used with obligation: to be in a Should-be-exercised state its > constraints/refinements of its action must be Satisfied; the action must be > exercised, if not all existing consequences must be Fulfilled. Else the > Obligation does not need to be exercised. > > * MS note: what I'm missing in this context is the quite relevant role of > target and assignee. I suggest to add this "Note: The evaluation and the > states of Permission, Prohibition and Obligation apply only to assignees and > targets of this Rule." to the Rules Processing section. > > ------------ > > I consider such Rule-type specific evaluation rules as sufficient. (In an > Implementation Note we may give some more software-minded guidelines for > implementing that.) > > Does anybody object to this quite limited set of processing rules? > > And does anybody object if we retire the magic term "Non-/Active"? (For me > it is too generic and generic semantics do not fit in all different types of > rules. For this reason too unclear to be of help in an evaluation rule - and > Truth Tables can be populated with the different names of states - or maybe > acronyms for them.) > > Best, > Michael
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