Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Conformance files in PQ, HLG, SDR-BT.709?

Thanks so much 😊. This will move us forward more quickly.

Two new apps to test that might be worth some more investigation:

Photomator
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photomator-photo-editor/id1444636541


Affinity Photo
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/affinity-photo-2/id1616822987?mt=12



Best,
Chris

From: Chris Blume (ProgramMax) <programmax@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 11:52 AM
To: Seeger, Chris (NBCUniversal) <Chris.Seeger@nbcuni.com>
Cc: Portable Network Graphics (PNG) Working Group <public-png@w3.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Conformance files in PQ, HLG, SDR-BT.709?
Simon is right.
I'll work on adding cICP chunks now.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 11:11 AM Seeger, Chris (NBCUniversal) <Chris.Seeger@nbcuni.com<mailto:Chris.Seeger@nbcuni.com>> wrote:
Yes.  They are public. Can we start with cicp only as they are not required for PQ, HLG or SDR?

If you show me how to do it, and with what tools, maybe I can help.

Best,
Chris

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Conformance files in PQ, HLG, SDR-BT.709?

I can hexedit in cICP values.

Although, maybe I should wait until we have mDCv and cLLi values as well? How long do you think it would take to get those values?

My thought is: I don't want to start distributing test images only to later tell people to use these new test images instead (when they don't yet have a way to see which ones are new/old).
But maybe it will take a while to get mDCv and cLLi values. So maybe it would be good to get some new test images sooner?

(Are these images public domain? Can we distribute them widely?)

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 8:53 AM Seeger, Chris (NBCUniversal) <Chris.Seeger@nbcuni.com<mailto:Chris.Seeger@nbcuni.com>> wrote:

Hi Chris and All,



Do we have any conformance files in each format (PQ, HLG, SDR-BT.709)? I’ve got a number of developers who’d like to add the functionality into their apps. Once of them requested test files.



I’ve created test files if someone can add cICp chunks to them:



https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/a44vfxw3p21kvkh8nywpc/h?rlkey=v63ekq5y49kd4omg59ng9q3zr&dl=0<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/a44vfxw3p21kvkh8nywpc/h?rlkey=v63ekq5y49kd4omg59ng9q3zr&dl=0__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!u3P4S_qNlSUgxiBGGql3lAci2mnjiYXwiMFO_BJmTverJdmVa01jIZup7LNb0VmqqIefc7ZiC_qDHR576Lqb$>



SDR CICP: 1-1-1 (Narrow and Full Range versions marked NR or FR)

PQ CICP: 9-16-9 (Full Range only as there is no benefit to NR PQ)

HLG CICP: 9-18-9 (Narrow and Full Range versions marked NR or FR)



I will send mDCv and cLLI values (just an example at a later date since cICp is most important to get to developers).



Thanks very much,



Chris Seeger

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