Draft minutes of PF call on 2015-09-30

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Gottfried
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 Prof. Dr. Gottfried Zimmermann
Mobile User Interaction
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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                               - DRAFT -

           Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                              30 Sep 2015

   [2]Agenda

      [2] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0258.html

   See also: [3]IRC log

      [3] http://www.w3.org/2015/09/30-pf-irc

Attendees

   Present
          janina, ShaneM, Joanmarie_Diggs, fesch,
          Rich_Schwerdtfeger

   Regrets
          John_Foliot, Katie, Mary_Jo, Rich

   Chair
          janina

   Scribe
          Gottfried

Contents

     * [4]Topics
         1. [5]preview agenda with items from two minutes
         2. [6]Actions Review (Specs)
            http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open
         3. [7]new on TR
            http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
         4. [8]Community Groups
            http://www.w3.org/community/groups/
         5. [9]Rechartering Progress
         6. [10]ARIA.Next Items
         7. [11]TPAC Update - 2015 & 2016
     * [12]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 30 September 2015

preview agenda with items from two minutes

   Scribe; Gottfried

   Michael: ATAG 2.0 has gone to recommendation.

   <MichaelC> [13]ATAG 2.0 blog

     [13]
https://www.w3.org/blog/2015/09/more-accessible-web-authoring-with-atag-2-0/

   <MichaelC> [14]ATAG 2.0 Rec

     [14] http://www.w3.org/TR/ATAG20/

   Michael: ATAG wg is probably going to be shut down soon, to the
   benefit of the WCAG wg.
   ... ATAG 2.0 has implementations in real tools (this is a
   requirements for recommendation status).
   ... Not sure where the implementation report is.

   <MichaelC> [15]ATAG Implementation Report

     [15] http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/CR20/ImplementationReport

   Michael: They anonymized some of the data.

Actions Review (Specs)
[16]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open

     [16] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open

   Janina: On Media Capturing Streams. Question on synchronizing
   text - not in focus of this spec. Suggestion was to suggest the
   abstract to be more accurate that text synchronization is out
   of scope.
   ... Multiple sources of video and audio should be dealt with in
   the spec.

   <MichaelC> close action-1615

   <trackbot> Closed action-1615.

   <janina>
   [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/026
   9.html

     [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0269.html

   <MichaelC> action-1615:
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/026
   9.html

     [18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0269.html

   <trackbot> Notes added to action-1615 Review media capture and
   streams [19]http://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-streams/.

     [19] http://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-streams/.

   <MichaelC> close action-1631

   <trackbot> Closed action-1631.

   <MichaelC> action-1728?

   <trackbot> action-1728 -- Fred Esch to Review css round display
   fpwd [20]http://www.w3.org/tr/css-round-display-1/ -- due
   2015-09-30 -- PENDINGREVIEW

     [20] http://www.w3.org/tr/css-round-display-1/

   <trackbot>
   [21]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1728

     [21] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1728

   Fred: Document is very young. Should be revisited when in a
   more mature status.
   ... Should be put on the table when talking about reading
   order, flex-box, grids, etc.

   <MichaelC> close action-1728

   <trackbot> Closed action-1728.

   <MichaelC> action-1728: we want to re-review this when it
   matures

   <trackbot> Notes added to action-1728 Review css round display
   fpwd [22]http://www.w3.org/tr/css-round-display-1/.

     [22] http://www.w3.org/tr/css-round-display-1/.

   Janina: We talked about using a Wed call for discussion of CSS
   issues.

   <MichaelC> action-1654?

   <trackbot> action-1654 -- Gottfried Zimmermann to Take
   preliminary look at discovery & registration of multimodal
   modality components: state handling
   [23]http://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/ -- due 2015-09-16 --
   CLOSED

     [23] http://www.w3.org/tr/mmi-mc-discovery/

   <trackbot>
   [24]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1654

     [24] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1654

   <MichaelC>
   [25]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/02
   28.html

     [25] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2015Sep/0228.html

   Michael: We took two of Gottfried's comments (4 & 5) and sent
   them to the multimodal interaction wg on 2015-09-23. The others
   are personal.

   Comment 4 was on inaccessible links, and 5 on context object.

new on TR [26]http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

     [26] http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

   Michael: Most of this is low-level stuff from web performance
   wg.

Community Groups [27]http://www.w3.org/community/groups/

     [27] http://www.w3.org/community/groups/

   <MichaelC> [28]Sport Schema Community Group

     [28] https://www.w3.org/community/sport-schema/

   Michael: An extended vocabulary for describing sporting
   information. Not sure about this.
   ... 3 messages on the mailing list.

   <fesch> me/ baseball stats!

   Janina: We probably need to care because it is so important to
   many people.

   Michael: Schema.org doesn't contain UI.

   Shane: Only some sort of role.

Rechartering Progress

   Michael: Judy and i are preparing responses for the Advisory
   Committee.
   ... Next steps: New review from Judy. Send responses to the
   commenters. Give them a week to respond to us.
   ... Our charter expires next Thu. We are probably going to be
   out of charter for a week or so. Could get the new group (APA)
   chartered by Oct. 14.

   Janina: Issue about members need for joining new groups. Once
   the new charter is released, it may take some weeks until
   people like Rich can join the group.
   ... I suggest that we may need an overlap extension for the PF
   charter.,

   Michael: I hope that we will get a 45-day extension for PF once
   the new group is approved.
   ... Our rationale would be to avoid losing people.

   Janina: Can we have this call on Oct. 14, assuming we don't get
   this done on Oct. 8?
   ... For TPAC, i intend to use both names for our meeting: PF
   and APA.

ARIA.Next Items

TPAC Update - 2015 & 2016

   Janina: TPAC 2016 is scheduled for Sep. 19ff, 2016 in Lisbon,
   Portugal.
   ... For TPAC 2015, i am negotiating about our session time on
   Thu afternoon. We will ask some CSS people to craft an approach
   for solving the issues on Fri.
   ... CSS is meeting on Mon & Tue. Hopefully a few of them will
   be still around on Fri.
   ... Two main topics: DPUB, ARIA and CSS. Are there any other
   items on the APA page that we need to deal with at the meeting?
   ... Tab order problem should be taken up soon, also.

   <MichaelC>
   [29]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA

     [29] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/APA

   <MichaelC>
   [30]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/ARIA

     [30] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Meetings/TPAC2015/ARIA

   Shane: We have from time to time mentioned that we want to deal
   with footnotes etc. Never made any progress on this.

   Janina: It is a DPUB issue, they are defining use cases for
   this. It came up on last Thu call. You need a reference to the
   same footnote from multiple locations.
   ... You need to be able to list them out.
   ... We expect DPUB to help to solve this.
   ... Also, we want to finish the matrix from Michael on long
   text descriptions. There are several fields where we need the
   group's advice.

   <MichaelC> [31]Extended Description Analysis

     [31] http://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis

   Janina: I will bring this up on DPUB on Thu.

   actions?

Summary of Action Items

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