Re: Question about "Implicit value for Role"

And specifically of the value of a field in a table in our specifications.
It is a field in the template for a role, and I am not clear if children of
a role should be inheriting whatever is in that field.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Matthew King <mattking@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> The original question:
> > If there is data in the value for this field for a given role (e.g.,
> "select") and another role references that role as a superclass, should the
> new "child" role inherit those implicit values automatically?
> Example provided by James Craig:
> > role=alert has an implicit value of “assertive” so the author just
> > needs to write:
> >     role="alert"
> > Not:
> >     role="alert" aria-live="assertive"
>
> I still do not understand the original question given the example. I
> didn't even realize that there was a concept of value associated with ARIA
> roles., e.g., Alert has a value of assertive? Isn't it the live property
> that has the value, not the assertive role?
>
> The original question is asking about the value of a field.
>
> Matt King
> IBM Senior Technical Staff Member
> I/T Chief Accessibility Strategist
> IBM BT/CIO - Global Workforce and Web Process Enablement
> Phone: (503) 578-2329, Tie line: 731-7398
> mattking@us.ibm.com
>
>
>
> From:        James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
> To:        Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats
> <public-pfwg@w3.org>,
> Date:        03/23/2015 10:26 PM
> Subject:        Re: Question about "Implicit value for Role"
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>
>
> It’s about authoring convenience. For example, role=alert has an implicit
> value of “assertive” so the author just needs to write:
>
>     role="alert"
>
> Not:
>
>     role="alert" aria-live="assertive"
>
> We document the "implicit values for roles," otherwise the default value
> would be the default for the attribute, which is "off" for aria-live.
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 4:40 PM, Shane McCarron <*shane@aptest.com*
> <shane@aptest.com>> wrote:
>
> Actually, no.  I don't even know what "Implicit value for Role" means
> really.  I can guess, but I would have assumed it was only relevant in a
> host language context.
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Matthew King <*mattking@us.ibm.com*
> <mattking@us.ibm.com>> wrote:
> Can you provide an example?
>
> Matt King
> IBM Senior Technical Staff Member
> I/T Chief Accessibility Strategist
> IBM BT/CIO - Global Workforce and Web Process Enablement
> Phone: *(503) 578-2329* <%28503%29%20578-2329>, Tie line: 731-7398
> *mattking@us.ibm.com* <mattking@us.ibm.com>
>
>
>
> From:        Shane McCarron <*shane@aptest.com* <shane@aptest.com>>
> To:        "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <*public-pfwg@w3.org*
> <public-pfwg@w3.org>>,
> Date:        03/22/2015 05:24 PM
> Subject:        Question about "Implicit value for Role"
> Sent by:        *ahby@aptest.com* <ahby@aptest.com>
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>
>
>
>
> If there is data in the value for this field for a given role (e.g.,
> "select") and another role references that role as a superclass, should the
> new "child" role inherit those implicit values automatically?
>
> --
> Shane McCarron
> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Shane McCarron
> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
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Shane McCarron
Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.