RE: ARIA 1.1: Deprecate @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect

+1 to the proposal and Leonie's ellaborations.
I don't know much about html5 extensions, but I support the idea of making
this type of functionality a part of the html5 spec.


-----Original Message-----
From: Léonie Watson [mailto:lwatson@paciellogroup.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:46 AM
To: 'James Craig'; 'WAI Protocols & Formats'
Subject: RE: ARIA 1.1: Deprecate @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect

> From: James Craig [mailto:jcraig@apple.com]
> Sent: 19 June 2015 10:43
> In an effort to reduce the author complexity of ARIA, I'd like to 
> propose
the
> spec's first deprecations: @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect.

+1

[...]

> Accessible drag & drop is a feature that may be better left to native 
> implementations. It could potentially be solved by some future version 
> of ARIA, but I do not believe @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect do the
job.
> It's a bad API that should be culled from the 1.1 spec.


Do you think it would be worth proposing an HTML5 extension for this?
> 
> In case there is any objection: I could be convinced to drop the call 
> for deprecation if anyone can point to a single real-world web 
> application
(not a
> test case) that works well in any browser+screenreader combo. The 
> example should use @aria-grabbed and @aria-dropeffect accurately in 
> conjunction with native or scripted drag and drop behavior.


Even in test cases using ARIA to spec, I haven't yet found an example that
works reliably across all (or even most) browser/AT combinations.


Léonie.

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Léonie Watson - Senior accessibility engineer @LeonieWatson @PacielloGroup
PacielloGroup.com

Received on Friday, 19 June 2015 12:37:15 UTC