- From: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
- Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 10:44:53 -0400
- To: public-pfwg@w3.org
On 2015-04-29 5:55 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
> It's clear that we don't have consensus on how to interpret the spec.
> Does anyone know what was actually intended?
The interpretation that only the first aria-labelledby is followed is
correct. There is an explanatory example at the end of step 2B,
repeated below[1]:
> The following example shows the meaning of the clause "… and the
> current node is not already part of an aria-labelledby traversal …" .
>
> * element1's accessible name is "hello" because this is a first
> traversal of its aria-labelledby, leading to element3.
> * element2 has no accessible name. The computation involves a first
> traversal of its aria-labelledby leading to element1, but element1's
> aria-labelledby is not subsequently followed.
>
> <element1 id="el1" aria-labelledby="el3" />
> <element2 id="el2" aria-labelledby="el1" />
> <element3 id="el3"> hello </element3>
I think the restriction has to do with reverse relationships[2]. Like
aria-controls and aria-flowto, aria-labelledby creates a
'label-for/labelled-by' relationship structure in some accessibility
APIs (in addition to a name string). That's simple to do if there are
only two accessible nodes in the relationship. But, if aria-labelledby
references are followed indefinitely, it's not clear how to create the
label-for/labelledby relationship(s). Is there only one such
relationship? Or a flat chain of relationships? Or is it a many-to-one
relationship with one label-for with many labelled-bys? Or, one-to-many
and hierarchical? My head hurts just thinking about how the
relationship could be represented.
Also, FWIW, I think it it's simpler for authors if only the first
aria-labelledby is followed. They know what they have to work with, and
don't have to worry about indefinitely long chains of aria-labelledbys.
Regarding the credit card example:
> <input aria-labelledby="label1">
> <div id="label1">
> Enter your
> <img src="visa.png" aria-labelledby="visa">
> or
> <img src="mastercard.png" aria-labelledby="mastercard">
> credit card number now.
> </div>
> <div hidden id="visa">Visa</div>
> <div hidden id="mastercard">Mastercard</div>
The desired result could be accomplished using @aria-label or @alt on
the <img> elements. Since that doesn't involve following a second
aria-labelledby reference, the alternative text of the images is
captured by the recursion at step 2B:
<input aria-labelledby="label1">
<div id="label1">
Enter your
<img src="visa.png" aria-label="Visa">
or
<img src="mastercard.png" aria-label="Mastercard">
credit card number now.
</div>
or:
<input aria-labelledby="label1">
<div id="label1">
Enter your
<img src="visa.png" alt="Visa">
or
<img src="mastercard.png" alt="Mastercard">
credit card number now.
</div>
Those work in FireFox.
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/accname-aam-1.1/#step2B
[2]
http://www.w3.org/TR/core-aam-1.1/#mapping_additional_relations_reverse_relations
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