Re: What do you think about the use of aria-label on elements with no role?

> On Apr 6, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com> wrote:
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> OK, so to make sure I understand, your proposal is:
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> * Change the ARIA spec to say that aria-label (and similar attributes) do *not* apply to all elements in the base markup, only those without a generic computed role

Still open for discussion. I'd probably err on the side of ~"not apply to those with a specifically generic role (e.g. div/span) but still open on those with a role that is not mapped to ARIA (e.g. <video>)." The goal is to get us closer to a 1:1 mapping for ARIA to each host language so these ambiguities will fade over time.

> * Change all browsers to not expose names computed by attributes like aria-label on such elements



> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM, James Craig <jcraig@apple.com <mailto:jcraig@apple.com>> wrote:
> I have an action to include a ~“generic” role which would be the default for div. Once we have that, we can adjust it to match the name computation accordingly so that generic gets name from contents only. 
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> On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Dominic Mazzoni <dmazzoni@google.com <mailto:dmazzoni@google.com>> wrote:
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>> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28413 <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=28413>
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>> Developers are confused about what should happen if you put an aria-label on an element with no role, like an empty <div> element. While most browsers do interpret the aria-label and expose it, some screen readers ignore it. For example:
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>> <div aria-label="Label">Text</div>
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>> Firefox exposes "Label" as the accName, but "Text" as the IAccessibleText, and Windows screen readers read out "Text". Safari+VoiceOver is different, VoiceOver reads out "Label".
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>> Do you think the current Windows end-user behavior is correct, or not? Should we clarify the spec to make it crystal-clear that adding aria-label on any random element does not necessarily override that element's text, or should we change the current behavior?
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>> Note that elements without an ARIA role can still get a label, it depends on computed role, not the ARIA role. As an example:
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>> <h3 aria-label="ARIA Heading">Text Heading</h3>
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>> Every browser and screen reader combination I tested read out "ARIA Heading" here, not "Text Heading".
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