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RE: dated WD snapshot of alt techniques document

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:52:52 -0700
To: "'Steve Faulkner'" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "'HTML Accessibility Task Force'" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, <public-html-admin@w3.org>, 'Philippe Le Hégaret' <plh@w3.org>, "'Michael[tm] Smith'" <mike@w3.org>, "'Janina Sajka'" <janina@rednote.net>, "'Chaals McCathieNevile'" <w3b@chaals.com>, "'Sam Ruby'" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "'Paul Cotton'" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "'Maciej Stachowiak'" <mjs@apple.com>, "'W3C WAI Protocols & Formats'" <public-pfwg@w3.org>
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Hi Steve,


First, thanks for doing this - it helps disambiguate the discussion greatly, at least for me.  


I would however express one concern:  Currently the snapshot is known as "This version : XXXX", and while it is true that the XXXX is hyperlinked to the appropriate snapshot (54c868254d49bac4ca1efa7d9907cc85bfa0a3cd), I will suggest that we need a better naming convention than 4 Xs.  Might I suggest instead that the version *name* be something more cognitively obvious and easier to process? I might suggest either something like: www.w3c.github.io/alt-techniques-20141016 (at least it continues in a similar naming convention as earlier drafts), or an alias from the w3c (www.w3c.org/TR/2014/WD-html-alt-techniques-20141016).


My concern is findability and reference-ability for others less involved in the day-to-day workings of the W3C: for example an accurate, readable and reference-able URL would be of huge benefit when submitting documentation and reports to clients or others.


(Yes, I *could* provide those persons with http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/54c868254d49bac4ca1efa7d9907cc85bfa0a3cd/index.html - however a more human-readable URL would benefit meeting WCAG 3.2.4 (AA) and perhaps also 3.1.5 (AAA) )


Outside of that, I am comfortable with this, and support the publication of this as a heart-beat draft per W3C process requirements.


Thanks again Steve!





From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:58 AM
To: HTML Accessibility Task Force; public-html-admin@w3.org; Philippe Le Hégaret; Michael[tm] Smith; Janina Sajka; Chaals McCathieNevile; Sam Ruby; Paul Cotton; Maciej Stachowiak; W3C WAI Protocols & Formats
Subject: Re: dated WD snapshot of alt techniques document


Apologies, please use the following URL

I made a mistake in the update of the HTML5 reference and have fixed accordingly https://github.com/w3c/alt-techniques/commit/54c868254d49bac4ca1efa7d9907cc85bfa0a3cd




HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> 


On 16 October 2014 10:37, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

in an effort to break the inertia surrounding this document I have created a dated WD snapshot:


It incorporates Janina's requests:

removal of details/summary advice

update reference to pint to HTML /TR

I have added links to outstanding bugs with special reference to those about longdesc.

I also updated one example and closed the related bug [https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25961], as I consider it wholly uncontroversial and an improvement on the current example.

I consider once this WD is published the group(s) should swiftly appoint new editor(s). I would suggest that any editors appointed have a good working knowledge of alt techniques.

It is my understanding that both Shane McCarron and David McDonald have volunteered and I personally have confidence that both of them working as a team would serve as excellent replacements.




HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/> 

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