- From: Birkir Gunnarsson <birkir.gunnarsson@deque.com>
- Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 15:12:08 -0500
- To: "'Matthew King'" <mattking@us.ibm.com>, "'Bryan Garaventa'" <bryan.garaventa@ssbbartgroup.com>
- Cc: "'James Nurthen'" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, <public-pfwg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <009401d0125a$14d2f2b0$3e78d810$@deque.com>
Greetings everyone Matt/James, this might be an overload if sent to the whole list, would you propose that a smaller group of us discuss individual bugs? I know it is unrelated to the specific agenda for last week, but I have been thoroughly writing and testing a simple alert dialog. I am not sure if I can send the specific code yet, (in any case sending it to a mailing list is hardly the way to go), but thte skeleton is: <code> <button>some button that displays a dialog and moves focus to the “close” button inside the dialog container</button> <div role=”alertdialog” aria-labelledby=”foo1”> <h2 id=”foo1”>Warning</h2> <p id=”foo2”>The message of the alert dialog</p> <!-- this button receives focus when dialog is displayed à <button id=”dialogclose”>Close</button> </div> </code> Screen reader observations: Jaws 16 with IE10 – Will not read the alert dialog text unless aria-describedby is used on the close button to connect it with the paragraph (<button aria-describedby=“foo2”>close</button>). It reads label of dialog and the word “dialog”, then “close button” .. but not the text, unless aria-describedby is present. Also Jaws will ignore targets of aria-describedby when its general verbosity level is set to “advanced”. I know an issue has been filed for that, but Jaws 16 has not addressed this. NVDA 2014.4 with FF33: If the text of the dialog message (p with id=”foo2”> is assigned role=”document” (as recommended in the spec as I understand it), NVDA 2014.4 will not read it, neither when the dialog is displayed, nor using aria-describedby = “foo2” on the close button. The only way to see it is to force browse mode and use arrow keys to locate the message. If role=”document is removed from paragraph with id=”foo2” , NVDA will read the alert message when dialog is displayed. If aria-describedby=”foo2” is present on the close button, it will read the message, the close button, then the message again. I have not studied the browsers accessibility API yet. I propose that two a.t. vendor bugs be filed (given the outcome of inspecting the browser). Jaws: - Should read content of alert dialog role automatically when focus is moved into it. NVDA - Should not let role=”document” disassociate the message from role=”alertdialog” and aria-describedby. If we plan to create a repository of bugs based around our own examples, we can add these to that when the time comes, and if the bug still exists. I expect to file these on my own, but any kind of official filing or recording by the group may encourage vendors to get things fixed. Thanks -Birkir
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