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Re: ARIA Test Cases 86 and 87 are invalid

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:15:40 -0500
To: Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Cynthia Shelly <cyns@exchange.microsoft.com>, David Bolter <dbolter@mozilla.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>
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Joseph,

Net. Net: So, do I need to change the expected results for these tests:
85-88 based on this discussion?

https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testcases?testsuite_id=2

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From:	Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>
To:	Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexander@gmail.com>,
Cc:	Joseph Scheuhammer <clown@alum.mit.edu>, Richard
            Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, David Bolter
            <dbolter@mozilla.com>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats
            <public-pfwg@w3.org>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>, Cynthia
            Shelly <cyns@exchange.microsoft.com>
Date:	09/20/2013 10:23 AM
Subject:	Re: ARIA Test Cases 86 and 87 are invalid



Hi Alex,

Thanks!  The table is beginning to make more sense.

>   A note: STATECHANGE event should be fired on unfocused
> (unselected) item and newly focused (selected) item both.

Actually, the table goes on to say:  " ... arrange events so state
change does not occur on focused item, to avoid extra selection change
announcements".  That clause appears only under the MSAA and ATK/AT-SPI
columns.   UIA says the opposite --  focus change "... should be fired
but individual selection event may not happen to avoid redundancy".

> Also not
> sure whether the spec should define an event order.

Good point.  A common feature of event handling is that the order the
events arrive is typically undefined, and one cannot write one's
handlers in a way that depends on event order.  But, I don't know if ATs
work that way when listening for AAPI events.

Thanks again.

--
;;;;joseph.


'A: After all, it isn't rocket science.'
'K: Right. It's merely computer science.'
              - J. D. Klaun -






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