Draft Minutes for ARIA Teleconference on 5 August

Minutes from the ARIA Task Force teleconference on Monday 5 August are provided below as text, and are available as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2013/08/05-pf-minutes.html


   W3C

                                                                                   - DRAFT -

                                                              Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                                                                                  05 Aug 2013

   Agenda

   See also: IRC log

Attendees

   Present
          Rich, janina, Michael_Cooper, Jon_Gunderson

   Regrets
   Chair
          Rich

   Scribe
          janina

Contents

     * Topics
         1. hg vs cvs
         2. test plan
         3. aria 1.0 actions
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

   <trackbot> Date: 05 August 2013

   <richardschwerdtfeger> trackbot, make log public

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   <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

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   <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference

   <trackbot> Date: 05 August 2013

   <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich

   <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

   <scribe> scribe: janina

   <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2013Aug/0001.html

hg vs cvs

   General discussion of whether and when to transition to hg

   We need JC to finalize, but sense here is

   Leave as is for DescribedAt FPWD

   Then transition to hg

   We have until 2016 to produce ARIA 1.1 aligned with HTML 5.1, so transition in this time frame seems good

test plan

   rich: both for aria and uaig

   <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/5

   mc: leaving open only because not pub'd
   ... for director's report

   rich: there are test cases oriented toward test tools in the harness, do they come out?

   mc: not sure which ones these are, but should come out
   ... believe validator.new can cover our error handling must

   rich: didn't mark, but they were grouped ...

   [numbers identified, people looking at them and clearing them ...]

   rich: Only 2 pp of tests remain
   ... Looking now at actions ...
   ... Will have finished IE testing soon.
   ... No changes are in the pipeline with IE

   [discussion of when and how to include Linux results ...]

   we agree to finish test runs with IE and Safari, but we will not wait on any further fixes there

   We will not mark Linux passes for W3 CR until IE and Safari test are run on those tests

   mc: on 632-646 we need to clarify why Safari can't pass ...

   rich: 894-899 for Win, who's running these?
   ... Would be good if jg can focus on Safari

   jg: Only prob with Safari is no tool to see events

   janina: Recalling we were going to do tests involving events on Chrome

   <jongund> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testreport/annotate?testsuite_id=1&filter_required=on&filter_cr_met=on&filter=Filter+view

   jg: These would be the ones to focus on with Chrome?

   rich: yes

   mc: Asks about qos test focus
   ... Usually after TR

   rich: Next UAIG test cases ...
   ... Can we separate these from the ARIA test cases?

   mc: Separate now, but only really visible in the URL
   ... Need to make this more visible
   ... Want review of testable statements previously written
   ... Most are pretty obvious, and my focus first has been ARIA CR
   ... Not sure how we get the test cases review for UAIG. Need the right folks on the review
   ... review because uaig has been updated and test cases may be out of date
   ... Expect we'll have about 200 tests finally for uaig
   ... need to create some ui for these
   ... I'll prioritize this work

   rich: please also respond on public list around all this

   rs: when we finish aria, do we go to director then, or do we wait for uaig testing?

   mc: we said we expected to exit both together
   ... reason is the normative dependency
   ... we may ask for a preliminary review, but not a final

   rich: concern is to get agreement on exit criteria for uaig
   ... and second last call will be about a month?

   mc: yes

   rich: which shouldn't stop us from test cases now?

   mc: correct
   ... we can be doing testing even before lc, so certainly during lc

   rich: so finish aria now, and get the uaig testing going

   <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/1

aria 1.0 actions

   mc: first 5 of mine are priority only before publishing our next version
   ... also those for Shane
   ... noting more of these ...
   ... OK. All my actions relate to next publication,

   Consensus is that we're clear of actions -- for now. The open actions relate to next publication.

Summary of Action Items

   [End of minutes]
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Found Scribe: janina
Present: Rich janina Michael_Cooper Jon_Gunderson


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