Re: Response to your comments on Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0

Janina,

Is there a link to the current text somewhere?

    Neil


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:

>
> Dear Neil Soiffer:
>
> Thank you for your comments on the 24 February 2009 Last Call Working
> Draft of Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-20090224/). The Protocols and
> Formats Working Group has reviewed all comments received on the draft. We
> would like to know whether we have understood your comments correctly and
> whether you are satisfied with our resolutions.
>
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> Regards,
>
> Janina Sajka, PFWG Chair
> Michael Cooper, PFWG Staff Contact
>
>
> Comment 4: Comment on WAI-ARIA Role (math)
> Date: 2009-03-03
> Archived at:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2009JanMar/0022.html
> Relates to: Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0 - math
> (role) <http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-20090224/#math>
> Status: Accepted proposal
>
> -------------
> Your comment:
> -------------
> I'm glad that the math role is in the last call.  Although I'm partly
> responsible for the present wording, I'd like to suggest a change to
> clarify
> it.
>
> Some documents use HTML elements such as <sup> and <sub> to represent
> math.
> Eg
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_polynomial
> has both images with alt text (in TeX) and "HTML math" (around the 6th
> line).
>
> <i>a</i><i>x</i><sup>2</sup> + <i>b</i><i>x</i> + <i>c</i> = 0
>
> Another example later down is:
>
>
> <i>f</i>(<i>x</i>)&nbsp;=&nbsp;<i>x</i><sup>2</sup>&nbsp;+&nbsp;<i>x</i>&nbsp;-&nbsp;2
>
> Although I tend to think of these a "ASCII art", some people might not
> think
> of them as "ASCII". So, I suggest the spec be changed from using the term
> "ASCII art" in:
>
> "However, since there exists significant amounts of legacy content that
> use
> images and ASCII art to represent mathematical expressions..."
>
> to something like:
>
> "However, since there exists significant amounts of legacy content that
> use
> images and textual approximations using ASCII art or HTML tags (eg, SUB
> and
> SUP)  to represent mathematical expressions..."
>
> There is a further clarification that is needed.  The section goes on to
> say
>
> "The text equivalent used in such situations *SHOULD* be valid MathML or
> TeX....images *SHOULD* also be labeled by text that describes the math
> formula as it should be spoken, using the
> aria-describedby<http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/#aria-describedby>
> attribute <http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/#def_attribute>."
>
> The sentence should start, "For images, ...".  and should be followed by
> a
> sentence for what to do for "textual approximations".  They should be
> wrapped in a div or span so that there is something to hang the role and
> described by attributes.  There isn't (I think) a place to put TeX or
> MathML, but if only simple elements like <i>, <sup>, and <sub> are used,
> those are easy enough to figure out.  Others usages would be hard to
> figure
> out (and hard to author without a tool), as would ASCII art.  If there
> were
> a way to give TeX or MathML, that would be best, but I don't know how it
> could be done.
>
> It would be good to add examples using images and html tags to the best
> practices section and to link to them in the explanation.  The wikipedia
> page included above can serve as a source for some examples.
>
> --------------------------------
> Response from the Working Group:
> --------------------------------
> Thank you for your comment. We have accepted your first two text changes,
> and added the examples we discussed with you at the TPAC meeting in
> November.
>