Response to your comments on Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0

Dear Simon Pieters:



Thank you for your comments on the 24 February 2009 Last Call Working
Draft of Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0
(http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-20090224/). The Protocols and
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would like to know whether we have understood your comments correctly and
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Due to the scope of changes made in response to comments on the Last Call
Working Draft of WAI-ARIA, we are returning the specification to Working
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Thank you for your time reviewing and sending comments. Though we cannot
always do exactly what each commenter requests, all of the comments are
valuable to the development of Accessible Rich Internet Applications
(WAI-ARIA) 1.0.



Regards,



Janina Sajka, PFWG Chair

Michael Cooper, PFWG Staff Contact


Comment 276: Please remove FPI in sample ARIA DTD
Date: 2009-06-22
Archived at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2009AprJun/0098.html
Relates to: Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0 - 9.1.3. Sample XHTML plus ARIA DTD <http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-wai-aria-20090224/#xhtml_dtd>
Status: Alternate action taken

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Your comment:
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http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/#xhtml_dtd



<!-- This is the driver file for a sample XHTML + ARIA DTD.



      Please use this public identifier to identify it:



          "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+ARIA EXAMPLE 1.0//EN"

-->

<!ENTITY % XHTML.version  "XHTML+ARIA 1.0" >



<!-- For example, if you are using XHTML 1.1 directly, use the public

      identifier in the DOCTYPE declaration, with the namespace
declaration

      on the document element to identify the default namespace:



        <?xml version="1.0"?>

        <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+ARIA 1.0//EN"

                             
"http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd">

        <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

              xml:lang="en">

        ...

        </html>



      Revisions:

      (none)

-->



Please remove the FPI from this sample DTD.



Why? Because the following sequence of events have happened in the past:



   1. A W3C WG mints a new XHTML FPI.

   2. Some authors copy the doctype and use in their pages.

   3. Some of those authors serve their pages as application/xhtml+xml to 


XHTML browsers.

   4. Some of those pages have HTML entities like &nbsp; or &copy;.

   5. Those pages don't work in XHTML browsers.

   6. Browsers extend their list of magic FPIs that enable the HTML  

entities in XML.



It is painful, unnecessary and wastes time for authors and browser  

implementors.



The spec also says "To avoid competition with future formal XHTML DTDs  

that support ARIA, this is only a sample and has not been posted to a  

referenceable location." although it seems to be referencable from  

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd

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Response from the Working Group:
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we will move the DTD out of the spec and re-publish it in an alternate
location (http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/schemata/). Although it won't be a
formal part of the spec anymore, it will be more appropriate to be treated
as a formal resource. Therefore, we will remove the "for position only"
marker when we do this.

Received on Tuesday, 15 December 2009 00:34:55 UTC