- From: Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:42:35 -0500
- To: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
- CC: public-pfwg-comments@w3.org, "EOWG (E-mail)" <w3c-wai-eo@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <49AED9AB.1040006@w3.org>
Thanks for these comments. Here is where we're at: Shawn Henry wrote: > > Dear PFWG, > > EOWG recently discussed the WAI-ARIA documents and have the following > comments. (These comments were generated by a subset of the EOWG and > may not reflect consensus throughout the group.) > > 1. All of the documents > > * Make clear up front: > - what is in that specific document and who it is for > - that there are related documents designed for other audiences, &/or > that are companions or dependencies of that doc > - they should first have read the introduction to WAI-ARIA and the > related documents at http://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/aria I think you were reviewing the editor's draft, which doesn't have the public Status of this Document section that, I believe, addresses this. I also feel the introduction section of each document covers this. Are there further edits we should make in service of this? If so, please send specific wording suggestions. Public drafts: * http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-wai-aria-20090224/ * http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-wai-aria-practices-20090224/ * http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-wai-aria-implementation-20090224/ > > * For consistency with other WAI specs, consider the following > titles/h1s: > - Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA) 1.0 [without > ‘Version’] I made this change. > - WAI-ARIA Primer for Accessible Rich Internet Applications 1.0 > - WAI-ARIA Best Practices for Accessible Rich Internet Applications 1.0 > - WAI-ARIA User Agent Implementation Guide for Accessible Rich > Internet Applications 1.0 > - WAI-ARIA Roadmap for Accessible Rich Internet Applications 1.0 [or > no 1.0 needed?] I think this is super-awkward. This is kind of like saying "WAI-ARIA Best Practices for WAI-ARIA". I also don't see that this change would make it more consistent with other WAI specs. The other editors agreed that we don't want to make these title changes. > > * For documents that are informative (rather than normative > standards/specs), make that clear. This is addressed in the status of this document (again, an editors draft issue). > > * <a>ARIA Overview</a> should be <a>WAI-ARIA Overview</a> I'm unclear if /all/ instances of ARIA should be presented as "WAI-ARIA". My personal preference is to do "WAI-ARIA" on first use in a section and plain "ARIA" after that. I believe you're requesting that all instances be the long form, but I'm not clear. It's actually easier just to find-replace it all to long form than to decide when to do long and when to do short, but I don't know if that's best for readability. > > * Explain jargon like "user agent" on first use. Link terms to their > definitions in the glossary. Make sure acronyms are written out in > first use. I did a massive linking of terms, and wrapping <abbr> around everything I could think of, which I hope addresses this request. I actually think I may have overdone it, but it was with the expectation that it's easier to pull back than to go through another pass to add. I welcome feedback about the appropriate amount of term links and <abbr> markup. > > * Consider using the CSS as is in /TR/WCAG/, especially for the links > to the definitions We will take a look at this with a goal to adopting some of the styles from WCAG 2.0. > > * add [contents] link at the top, e.g., like /TR/WCAG/ This is done. > > * include link to public comments list in the Status section (or > wherever else appropriate) Standard for public status; editorial draft issue again. > > 2. WAI-ARIA 1.0 Editor's Draft <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/> > > * In "This section is informative" link "informative" to definition > and un-italicize. Done. I linked normative and informative to a glossary entry. I used a "termref" class which is styled to look how older WCAG drafts did it. The style for that class may be updated in addressing the above CSS request. > > * Change "Semantics are knowledge of" to "Semantics is the knowledge > of..." Done > > 3. WAI-ARIA Best Practices <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-practices/ /> > > "Writing rich internet applications is much more difficult than > righting in HTML. It is even more work to ensure your application runs > in multiple browsers and support WAI-ARIA." > is pretty strong. Please reconsider wording. This could be taken out > of context and used to say that the main point is that ARIA is really > hard, instead of how awesome it is to the user. I'll happily take wording suggestions. I did nothing yet. > > Note that some EOWG participants were somewhat uncomfortable telling > people so strongly to use toolkits. (more on this is in a separate email) We have agreed that we will make this change, but I can't promise when it will show up in a draft. > > (also typo "righting" and “support”) done > > ### > > Regards, > ~Shawn for EOWG <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/> > > > ------------------ > Shawn Lawton Henry > W3C Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > e-mail: shawn@w3.org > phone: +1.617.395.7664 > about: http://www.w3.org/People/Shawn/ > > -- Michael Cooper Web Accessibility Specialist World Wide Web Consortium, Web Accessibility Initiative E-mail cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org> Information Page <http://www.w3.org/People/cooper/>
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