Re: linking work on processing WAI-ARIA markup in HTML

Ian,

I don't see how we can fully state how we work with HTML 5 as it is not
done. We should be able to do this in a future version.

Rich


Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review  Board
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer


                                                                           
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Al Gilman wrote:
>
> I see by your Tracker that you have an ISSUE-35 on "aria processing."
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/35

There are three issues blocking the adoption of ARIA proposals in HTML5:

 1. ARIA isn't being developed in the open. It is unlikely that we would
    adopt wholesale anything that wasn't developed in a completely open
    manner, with open public participation and a completely public
    feedback loop. I mentioned this in:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2008AprJun/0004.html


 2. ARIA specifications lack clear normative conformance criteria. I gave
    a bunch of examples of this in:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2008JanMar/0102.html


 3. ARIA doesn't define how ARIA works in conjunction with existing
    features in HTML4, HTML5, and other specs. For example, if the HTML5
    "required" attribute indicates that a form control is required when
    the ARIA required attributes indicates that it is not. This was the
    second problem listed in:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments/2008JanMar/0102.html

    ...and was also mentioned in this e-mail which was cc'ed to you:
    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Feb/0342.html

Unless and until these three issues are addressed, I don't see any way in
which the ARIA proposals can be adopted in HTML5.

Cheers,
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