example for conjugation with Bliss

Hi 

We could use the following example:

 

Hebrew word: שמה (her name)

Proposed value - data-symbol="15691+14707" (name+her)



If the sex is not important you can just use 15691. Also note that many of the references include conjugation. 

I think it needs the instruction to have the object reference first. 



EA does this work for you? note we are not mapping between natural languages at this point. 




Also, note that many references numbers are already superimposed with tenses 



 See MAtts work 

the tagged lexicon spreadsheet file at: http://www.symbolnet.org/bliss/BCI-AV_2018-04-16_(en+sv+no+fi+hu+de+nl+af+ru+lv+po+fr+es+pt+it+dk)+derivations+tag-sorted.zip 

Matts work sheet  to match the material at: http://www.symbolnet.org/bliss/bliss_template+1st100+YACR-freq1000-329wl.ods 



See 


All the best

Lisa Seeman

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Please find attached some examples from EA with Bliss translation.



Maybe we should a sentence of instruction such as:

"In some languages words and symbols are conjugated with sex or tense. In these case more then one value maybe need to map to a symbol (such as "you  + female"). Authors must put values that may map to a single symbol in the same attribute with the subject as the first reference. "



Other instructions we could include are:

"Authors should join values that map to a single conjugated word with a \+\ sign"

We could also add an example of a word with grammar or conjugation.



We should add to the explainer that our use cases is to map between symbol sets in the same natural language. We are not enabling consistent translation for different symbol sets across different natural languages.



EA, does that sound ok?



For quick reference see http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf



All the best

Lisa Seeman

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I have to admit by staying with the idea that Bliss becomes a pictographic symbol set and is mapped against other symbol sets as you have done in the EasyReading
 project with Widgit and ARASAAC, it obviously solves the generative language problem.  You do not have to think about grammar and just have access to 6,800 symbols, (until they update them and provide more IDs)!  

 

Hope that makes sense and clears up any concerns as you go to Candidate Recommendation (CR).  It also means that we can develop an API that might help.  

 

Best wishes

E.A.