Re: copy-write question

Hi Lisa,

Please find attached the Fundamental Rules for inclusion on GitHub. 
There is a title page added with the standard copyright notice for 
"Blissymbols used herein". I will let you know when the fully updated 
document is ready. The changes to be made are mostly to do with the 
process of symbol development/approval which is probably not very 
relevant for your purposes anyway.

Russell

On 2020-05-15 8:39 p.m., Russell wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
> Sorry for the delay with this. I hope it is not too urgent. It will 
> eventually be fine but there is some discussion going on that will 
> take a few more days. The content needs to be updated in the rules 
> document although not in the most important areas of symbol construction.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Russell
>
> On 2020-05-07 11:47 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
>> Russel, can we store a copy of 
>> http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github?
>> We may need to make some changes for accessibility
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Lisa Seeman
>>
>> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter 
>> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
>>
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>> ---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 *Russell 
>> <russell@blissymbolics.org <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote 
>> ----
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>>     Hi,
>>
>>     Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers.
>>     The only question is whether attribution needs to be made.
>>
>>     I am just going through the patent policy document and will be
>>     able to give you a definitive answer very soon.
>>
>>     Russell
>>
>>     On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote:
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>>         Hi Lisa,
>>
>>         I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to your
>>         questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was to
>>         your question to the numbers being copyright restricted,
>>         rather than to whether someone could use your specification
>>         with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of
>>         confusion there.
>>
>>         If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics
>>         lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of
>>         any kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are
>>         respected for derivative resources (free use +
>>         BY=attribution, and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or
>>         directly bundle the resource into proprietary products.
>>
>>         Just for my understanding:
>>         I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the
>>         numbering. The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be
>>         meaningless, so I suppose you intend to use them with some
>>         kind of reference to the concept gloss words and definitions.
>>         Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done?
>>         Ideally such a reference should also include the so called
>>         "Derivation" for each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in
>>         themselves will quite often not be unambiguous.
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Mats
>>
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>>         Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19 skrev lisa.seeman
>>         <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>>:
>>
>>             Hi Russell
>>             What time frame do you think it will take to get a
>>             decisions if we can use the BCI *numbers* in the
>>             specification in keeping with the w3c patent policy at
>>             https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy
>>
>>             We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be
>>             able to use it in our specification.
>>
>>             All the best
>>
>>             Lisa Seeman
>>
>>             LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter
>>             <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
>>
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>>             ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 *Russell
>>             <russell@blissymbolics.org
>>             <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote ----
>>
>>                 Hi Lisa,
>>
>>                 Well, that is a question that has never been asked
>>                 before! My initial reaction would be "no" but let me
>>                 run it by the board just in case.
>>
>>                 Russell
>>
>>                 On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
>>
>>
>>                     Hi Russell
>>
>>                     Thanks for getting back to us so quickly.
>>
>>                     We are just talking about using the BCI reference
>>                     number. Not the actual symbols.
>>                     We need people to be able to use the
>>                     specification for profit applications without
>>                     paying royalties.
>>
>>                     Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if
>>                     so can people make a "for profit" product that
>>                     uses them (such as a web page) royalty free?
>>
>>                     All the best
>>
>>                     Lisa Seeman
>>
>>                     LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>,
>>                     Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>                     ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 *Russell
>>                     <russell@blissymbolics.org>
>>                     <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>* wrote ----
>>
>>                         Hi Lisa,
>>
>>                         The licensing information can be found at:
>>
>>                         http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing
>>
>>                         If you have any further questions about it, I
>>                         am currently the person to talk to.
>>                         Attribution would be the only requirement, I
>>                         think.
>>
>>                         For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859
>>                         encoding but it is no longer used or kept up
>>                         to date. A proposal for a Unicode encoding is
>>                         in a very advanced stage and hopefully that
>>                         will become formalized very soon. There are
>>                         some technical issues with how indicators are
>>                         overlaid on symbols that is holding things up
>>                         a bit but I am optimistic that this obstacle
>>                         will be overcome very soon. However, the new
>>                         Unicode encoding will consist of
>>                         Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of
>>                         the language - and thus not contain every
>>                         Bliss-word but only those words that are also
>>                         Bliss-characters. So for a numbering system
>>                         that refers to all Bliss-words, the BCI-AV
>>                         numbers are the ones to use. It is by far the
>>                         most widely used indexing. As far as other
>>                         possible ISO standards such as 7001 or 7010
>>                         but for complete pictographic/ideographic
>>                         languages, I'm not even aware of a standard
>>                         let alone Bliss being part of it.
>>
>>                         Russell
>>
>>
>>                         On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote:
>>
>>
>>                             Hi Russell!
>>
>>                             We are currently hoping to use BCI
>>                             numbers as references options in our
>>                             specification. See #symbol-explanation
>>                             <https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation>
>>                             Is there any copy-write involved? What
>>                             licence would that be under and is there
>>                             a web link to it?
>>
>>                             Also do you know if any symbol sets have
>>                             ISO codes?
>>
>>                             All the best
>>
>>                             Lisa Seeman
>>
>>                             LinkedIn
>>                             <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>,
>>                             Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa>
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