- From: Russell <russell@blissymbolics.org>
- Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:50:34 -0400
- To: lisa.seeman@zoho.com
- Cc: Mats L <m.lundalv@gmail.com>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, public-personalization-tf <public-personalization-tf@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <871562ee-5050-4fe1-e29d-00a401f6c041@blissymbolics.org>
Hi Lisa, Please find attached the Fundamental Rules for inclusion on GitHub. There is a title page added with the standard copyright notice for "Blissymbols used herein". I will let you know when the fully updated document is ready. The changes to be made are mostly to do with the process of symbol development/approval which is probably not very relevant for your purposes anyway. Russell On 2020-05-15 8:39 p.m., Russell wrote: > Hi Lisa, > > Sorry for the delay with this. I hope it is not too urgent. It will > eventually be fine but there is some discussion going on that will > take a few more days. The content needs to be updated in the rules > document although not in the most important areas of symbol construction. > > Best regards, > > Russell > > On 2020-05-07 11:47 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: >> Russel, can we store a copy of >> http://www.blissymbolics.org/images/bliss-rules.pdf on our github? >> We may need to make some changes for accessibility >> >> All the best >> >> Lisa Seeman >> >> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> >> >> >> >> >> ---- On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:59:56 +0300 *Russell >> <russell@blissymbolics.org <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote >> ---- >> >> Hi, >> >> Yes, Mats is correct here. You can definitely use the numbers. >> The only question is whether attribution needs to be made. >> >> I am just going through the patent policy document and will be >> able to give you a definitive answer very soon. >> >> Russell >> >> On 2019-08-22 11:54 a.m., Mats L wrote: >> >> >> Hi Lisa, >> >> I hope Russell can give you a quick and proper reply to your >> questions, but my guess would be that his "no" answer was to >> your question to the numbers being copyright restricted, >> rather than to whether someone could use your specification >> with them for "for profit" products. So probably a bit of >> confusion there. >> >> If you stick to the CC-BY-SA license for the Blissymbolics >> lexicon resources as a whole it does not restrict usage of >> any kind as long as the same freedoms and restrictions are >> respected for derivative resources (free use + >> BY=attribution, and SA=Share Alike). I.e. you can not turn or >> directly bundle the resource into proprietary products. >> >> Just for my understanding: >> I haven't looked further at how you plan to use the >> numbering. The numbers in ID numbers in themselves would be >> meaningless, so I suppose you intend to use them with some >> kind of reference to the concept gloss words and definitions. >> Is that right? If so, how will this reference be done? >> Ideally such a reference should also include the so called >> "Derivation" for each Bliss concept, as the gloss words in >> themselves will quite often not be unambiguous. >> >> Cheers, >> Mats >> >> >> Den tors 22 aug. 2019 kl 17:19 skrev lisa.seeman >> <lisa.seeman@zoho.com <mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>>: >> >> Hi Russell >> What time frame do you think it will take to get a >> decisions if we can use the BCI *numbers* in the >> specification in keeping with the w3c patent policy at >> https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy >> >> We would need the licence to be in a stable url to be >> able to use it in our specification. >> >> All the best >> >> Lisa Seeman >> >> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, Twitter >> <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> >> >> >> >> >> ---- On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 19:19:32 +0300 *Russell >> <russell@blissymbolics.org >> <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>>* wrote ---- >> >> Hi Lisa, >> >> Well, that is a question that has never been asked >> before! My initial reaction would be "no" but let me >> run it by the board just in case. >> >> Russell >> >> On 2019-08-20 7:03 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: >> >> >> Hi Russell >> >> Thanks for getting back to us so quickly. >> >> We are just talking about using the BCI reference >> number. Not the actual symbols. >> We need people to be able to use the >> specification for profit applications without >> paying royalties. >> >> Are the BCI numbers subject to copywrite and if >> so can people make a "for profit" product that >> uses them (such as a web page) royalty free? >> >> All the best >> >> Lisa Seeman >> >> LinkedIn <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, >> Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> >> >> >> >> >> ---- On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:42:27 +0300 *Russell >> <russell@blissymbolics.org> >> <mailto:russell@blissymbolics.org>* wrote ---- >> >> Hi Lisa, >> >> The licensing information can be found at: >> >> http://blissymbolics.org/index.php/licensing >> >> If you have any further questions about it, I >> am currently the person to talk to. >> Attribution would be the only requirement, I >> think. >> >> For ISO codes, there is an older ISO 8859 >> encoding but it is no longer used or kept up >> to date. A proposal for a Unicode encoding is >> in a very advanced stage and hopefully that >> will become formalized very soon. There are >> some technical issues with how indicators are >> overlaid on symbols that is holding things up >> a bit but I am optimistic that this obstacle >> will be overcome very soon. However, the new >> Unicode encoding will consist of >> Bliss-characters - ie the building blocks of >> the language - and thus not contain every >> Bliss-word but only those words that are also >> Bliss-characters. So for a numbering system >> that refers to all Bliss-words, the BCI-AV >> numbers are the ones to use. It is by far the >> most widely used indexing. As far as other >> possible ISO standards such as 7001 or 7010 >> but for complete pictographic/ideographic >> languages, I'm not even aware of a standard >> let alone Bliss being part of it. >> >> Russell >> >> >> On 2019-08-19 11:06 a.m., lisa.seeman wrote: >> >> >> Hi Russell! >> >> We are currently hoping to use BCI >> numbers as references options in our >> specification. See #symbol-explanation >> <https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/content/#symbol-explanation> >> Is there any copy-write involved? What >> licence would that be under and is there >> a web link to it? >> >> Also do you know if any symbol sets have >> ISO codes? >> >> All the best >> >> Lisa Seeman >> >> LinkedIn >> <http://il.linkedin.com/in/lisaseeman/>, >> Twitter <https://twitter.com/SeemanLisa> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
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