- From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 11:03:10 -0400
- To: public-personalization-tf@w3.org
Minutes from the Personalization Task Force teleconference of 11 March are provided below as text. They're also available as hypertext at: https://www.w3.org/2019/03/11-personalization-minutes.html W3C - DRAFT - Personalization Task Force Teleconference 11 Mar 2019 Attendees Present CharlesL, janina, stevelee, Becka11y, Roy, LisaSeemanKestenbaum, sharon, present, thaddeus, JF, MichaelC, shawn Regrets Chair SV_MEETING_CHAIR Scribe janina, Jannina Contents * Topics 1. review of the W3Câs webpage for âPersonalization Overviewâ 2. Next Meeting on March 18âth (after CSUN) 3. review of Royâs combination of Attribute/Value/Description into one table for ease of understanding 4. Look through the prototyping with data- examples * Summary of Action Items * Summary of Resolutions _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ <thaddeus> +present <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> trackbot, start meeting <trackbot> Meeting: Personalization Task Force Teleconference <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2019 <janina> scribe: janina <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Jannina review of the W3Câs webpage for âPersonalization Overviewâ <Roy> https://deploy-preview-2--wai-personalization-standards.netlify.com/standards-guidelines/personalization/ <janina> sh: Hoping to post this week, preferably even today. <janina> sh: We can still make changes even after posting. <janina> sh: Also want to post COGA. <Roy> https://deploy-preview-2--wai-personalization-standards.netlify.com/standards-guidelines/personalization/ <thaddeus> i on hold on the call for 10 mins <janina> ls: Wanting a pointer, or section of Use Cases ... <janina> ls: 1 or 2 examples, link to wiki pages where it's being developed <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Use-cases <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Use-cases#severe-language-impairment <shawn> +1 for adding brief bit in overview page and (probably) link to more <janina> ls: Most concerned we point to augumented communication symbol users, and also to users who get lost/confused with on screen overload <janina> ls: Notes that data overload is also a continuum in its effects, from troublesome to total show-stoppers <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Getting-started-with-personalization-semantics <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://deploy-preview-2--wai-personalization-standards.netlify.com/standards-guidelines/personalization/ <thaddeus> im back <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://deploy-preview-2--wai-personalization-standards.netlify.com/standards-guidelines/personalization/#who-personalization-documents-are-for <janina> ls: Other comments? <janina> ls: Anyone disagree to posting? <janina> [crickets] <janina> cl: We could use this! <janina> Roy: SH agree to work out the mechanics Next Meeting on March 18âth (after CSUN) <janina> cl: Asks who is available? I will be unavailable. <janina> I'm available <Roy> I am not available for March 18 <janina> ls: Suggesting asking the list, looks like only 3 so far review of Royâs combination of Attribute/Value/Description into one table for ease of understanding <CharlesL> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/rewrite-prototype/content/index.html#values <janina> cl: Notes this isn't yet complete, but it's far enough along for us to determine whether the approach works <janina> js: Find it easy to follow <thaddeus> field is misspelled <janina> cl: What about disjunct but related items? <janina> ls: Depends on how we implement? <janina> js: Suggesting cross-hyperlinks for related concepts that are disjunct in the presentation <janina> ls: Perhaps in the description? <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> 1 <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> +1 <thaddeus> +1 <janina> +1 <janina> roy: Notes it will be a huge table <janina> cl; Can we make it a sortable table? <janina> roy: Seeks clarification <janina> cl: Sort by column <janina> ls: Agrees that huge table may be a problem <janina> ls: What about collapsable, accordian structure? <janina> cl: Perhaps using html details for the description instead of the separate column <janina> ls: Likes seeing first line of the description and then expand it <janina> ls: Concerned that people would jump to improper conclusions about what is meant <janina> cl; Much more work <janina> roy: Don't think it's description that's bulking up the table, it's the value <janina> ls: Think our problem is people seeing a term and using it in the wrong place based on what they assume <janina> js: Likes sorting by column, but our problem remains too much bulk <janina> cl: what about hiding description? Do we know such a design pattern? <janina> roy: A button <janina> cl: to hide/show description column <janina> [head scratching] <janina> ls: Could be good <janina> cl: May solve the problem Look through the prototyping with data- examples <thaddeus> sorry i need to drop off - thad <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Protoypes-with-data-dash <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/wiki/Protoypes-with-data-dash <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> <span data-alternative-numberfree="most">92%</span> <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> <h1 data-alternative-easylang="form to ask for money if you have a disability or if you are ill">Disability claims under CD 356 / US </h1> <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> <span data-numberfree="most">92%</span> <janina> ls: Meaning labels for the field -- longer and more semantic? Or short anc easier to type <LisaSeemanKestenbaum> <h1 data-alt-easylang="form to ask for money if you have a disability or if you are ill">Disability claims under CD 356 / US </h1> <janina> cl: So cleaner communication with developers, but doesn't disambiguiate the payload <janina> cl: Field naming first? <janina> ls: Thinks so <janina> cl: Prefer to do the easy stuff first, the text based things <janina> +1 to cl <Roy> +1 to cl <janina> cl: Like alt-[...] <janina> cl: Notes the problem of multiple options after the second dash <janina> ls: We don't have an easy way to do otherwise <CharlesL> Nice suggestion Janina data-alt-⊠:) <janina> cl: Other than numbers-free and alt, are there others? Summary of Action Items Summary of Resolutions [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Present: CharlesL janina stevelee Becka11y Roy LisaSeemanKestenbaum sharon present thaddeus JF MichaelC shawn Found Scribe: Jannina -- Janina Sajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
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